<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Soulgrinder vs demon prince"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Soulgrinder vs demon prince HS choices for chaos demons any combination is possible so your thoughts

Rovian]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2758903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2758903.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
That said, it's the only vehicle in your army. That means that it has a giant neon sign over its head saying "ANTI-TANK WEAPONS LOOK OVER HERE!" In other words, you're going to draw a lot of heavy weapon attention to a Soul Grinder (especially since they're huge), which means they might not last too long (I usually make a point to kill them the turn they arrive).

If that's something you worry about, Daemon Princes are a solid support choice, but are truly a "support" unit. They are applied best (in my experience) when herding enemy forces into your main army, or wreaking havoc on enemy flanks.

Just my 2 cents]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2759956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2759956.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760014.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince DP. My general feeling is that SG's should be used in pairs because that is the only armor in the army. If my opponent has any anti tank, and i only have 1 SG i can easily guess what that Railgun/Lascannon is going to shoot at on the first turn. Plus if they blow it up early on and i only had 1 I really didn't get to play with it equaling less fun for me. That's just how i see it anyways.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760057.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince Dp's but never 1 soulgrinder]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760228.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2760228.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
Chamleoneyes wrote:I usually run 2 Grinders and 1 DP. My general feeling is that SG's should be used in pairs because that is the only armor in the army.


For any given Daemon army, I think this is the best generic advice. However for some builds out there (Tallyman, Fateweaver, Skarbrand) I feel that Daemon Princes are superior. In lower point games, I find the Soulgrinder to be a better overall choice just because you can spend less and get more, even from a naked one.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761264.page GMT Re:Soulgrinder vs demon prince CSM's defiler. My other line of thought was that I can put the only vehicles in my codex into my armies, or I could go the monstrous creature route. I've found that anti-tank weapons are pretty much the same against the big gribblies (hit on X, wound on 2+(maybe 3+!), save on 4++), but come in all kinds of flavour- all kinds of different costed and different ranged weapons. If you have access to meltaguns, your probably going to take some in a TAC list, but against daemons MC's, its like a krak missile to them (hits on X, wounds on 2+, saved on 4++), but its range is 12", and it gets no "I'm a melta weapon I'm here to eat all your armour" bonus, and the ML has a krak range of 48". Our old friend the lascannon- its like a ML against big gribblies, (hits on X, wounds on 2+, saved on a 4++) it just costs more But, against a soulgrinder... theres a world of difference between that krak missile and that short ranged meltagun. So running daemon princes has worked well for me, probably because I like 2 GD's as well, lots of big targets ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761427.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince HS, and the Daemon Prince is great for deep-striking and causing oodles of mayhem

But, take my opinion with a grain of salt, I play Tau ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761475.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761475.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
mega_bassist wrote:I find that Chaos Defilers are great for HS, and the Daemon Prince is great for deep-striking and causing oodles of mayhem

But, take my opinion with a grain of salt, I play Tau


What do defilers have to do with daemons or are you saying soulgrinders are a great for HS, and the daemon prince is great for deep-striking (well...it kind of... has to...) and causing oodles of mayhem. Which is a great thing to do to your enemy, causing oodles of mayhem. So you're saying they are both great? But not to take your opinion too seriously because you don't play daemons?


riiiiiiiiiiiight.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761565.page GMT Re:Soulgrinder vs demon prince cc unit expect to win.

That being said, I normally take a pair of soulgrinders, mainly because at my FLGS people have a supreme fear of them for some reason and will fire almost everything they have into the second it appears, which is great cover for my bloodletters and daemonettes to sneak in and kill stuff. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761597.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
mega_bassist wrote:I find that Chaos Defilers are great for HS, and the Daemon Prince is great for deep-striking and causing oodles of mayhem

But, take my opinion with a grain of salt, I play Tau


I'll take it with 10 pounds of salt as I cant get a defiler but I really like the other comments how do you run your demon princes as to expensive you could just take a bloodthirster]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761815.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761815.page GMT Re:Soulgrinder vs demon prince
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761944.page GMT Re:Soulgrinder vs demon prince HQ choices, DP's are a HS choice. Also DP's, whilst you can make them as expensive or more so than a greater daemon, don't cut the mustard for the price tag attached. Keep them cheep, painful and cheerful. Tzeentch prince with bolt and gaze is like 150/155ish? great for marines, a monsterous creature that can shoot up transports, shoot up marines with absolute glee, and beat down vehicles and non-dedicated CC units into the dirt. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2761993.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
rovian wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:I find that Chaos Defilers are great for HS, and the Daemon Prince is great for deep-striking and causing oodles of mayhem

But, take my opinion with a grain of salt, I play Tau


I'll take it with 10 pounds of salt as I cant get a defiler but I really like the other comments how do you run your demon princes as to expensive you could just take a bloodthirster


Heh...I didn't see that you were playing Daemons only...now I feel slowed

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2763675.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2763675.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765499.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765499.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince DP of khorne unholy might and its pretty generic for at least 2 soulgrinders]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765749.page GMT Re:Soulgrinder vs demon prince http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765782.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2765782.page GMT Soulgrinder vs demon prince
Really then you need to think about what you want to do with your HS choices, and also what you opponants are likely to bring to the table. Usually, I bring a pair of 'Grinders, but thats because they work for me. I've had some issues when more experienced players have deployed in such a way to make it hard for me to DS my Grinders, and with people who bring a lot of anti tank. This is mitigated somewhat by having two targets.

I use Princes if I decide to run an Epidemus list. I personally think Prince, MoN, Iron Hide and Gaze is a pretty decent loadout for a CC Prince, and MoT, Bolt, Gaze,Legion for a shooty one. Wings are brilliant, but can double the price of the Prince....it's your choice ultimately. Out of the other two, I prefer Slaanesh over Khorne...I just think they bring more to the table.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2766889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/366418/2766889.page GMT