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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all, <br /> <br /> Since I got back into the hobby about 2 years ago I have consistently used <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> paints and washes to paint my models. As I am soon to be starting a second army I am considering the switch from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> colours to Vallejo as I have heard nothing but good things about the quality, volume and storage of the paint. I was considering opting for the 'hobby box' paint set (shown <a href="http://www.vallejopaints.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=8_89999157&products_id=458142/url" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a>) as I think it contains pretty much everything I could possibly need.<br /> <br /> My question to you guys is: are there any colours/washes that are *better* in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> line than Vallejo? Also, is there anywhere I can find a conversion chart that details the Vallejo equivalent of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> paint? <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance.<br /> <br /> L. Wrex]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here's the conversion chart:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.evicerator.com/vallejotogwconversiontable.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.evicerator.com/vallejotogwconversiontable.htm</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2011 16:46:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I havent used the Vallejo washes, but I will say, if you havent used the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes then you should definatly try them out.  They are fantastic.  <br /> <br /> As far as vallejo paints..they are the bees knees!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2011 16:48:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have not used Vallejo washes as I have had very good success w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes...and anything that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> does not make, I just make my own.<br /> <br /> Ashton]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2011 17:23:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ha, it's funny how much Vallejo rips off <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s names for the paints...good for them though, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is so overpriced its daylight robbery.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2011 21:58:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I actually made the mistake of buying a rather large pot of Vallejo &quot;ready to use&quot; black shade wash. <br /> Compared to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> black wash it is bad. Unthinned it is basically unworkable and even with lots of additives it performs fairly poor. The Vallejo wash acts more like an old school ink.<br /> <br /> So my advise would be to stick with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes.<br /> <br /> Also while Vallejo paints are generally great, keep in mind that the paint for most colors need far more shaking before use than the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> ones since they tend to separate quickly.<br /> <br /> Metallics from Vallejo are also quite different, Vallejo uses finer metal particles in their paint and that makes their metallics a lot shinier than their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> counterparts. A matter of taste really, but I prefer the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> ones (even if the Vallejo paint itself is nicer to work with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>)<br /> <br /> So in short <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>:<br /> Vallejo paints &gt; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> paints<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes &gt; Vallejo washes]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 May 2011 22:10:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>imark789 wrote:</cite>Ha, it's funny how much Vallejo rips off <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s names for the paints..</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm pretty sure there's a backstory to that, though it escapes me at the moment.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>fiddler6291 wrote:</cite>So in short <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>:<br /> Vallejo paints &gt; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> paints<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes &gt; Vallejo washes</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This is also my experience. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWS</span> wash is awesome, but for paint, Vallejo is not only equivalent or better (generally), you get more (17ml vs 12ml) for less (2.60 vs 2.95). I'm slowly transitioning over to Vallejo for future models, but imagine I will still use some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWS</span>; their metallics I also find excellent with the exception of Brass\bronze, in which case Vallejo is far better. <br /> <br /> many edits, I cannot spell tonight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 May 2011 06:16:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ouze]]></author>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>imark789 wrote:</cite>Ha, it's funny how much Vallejo rips off <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s names for the paints...good for them though, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is so overpriced its daylight robbery.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Bald Moon Yellow is probably my favorite.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 May 2011 07:01:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ArmorOfContempt]]></author>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I already use the Devlan Mud/Badab Black washes from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> line, so from common consensus I think I'll stick with them. They truly are really great washes, and Vallejo would have had to release something truly special to compete with those two. <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>fiddler6291 wrote:</cite>Vallejo paints &gt; <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> paints <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes &gt; Vallejo washes</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This was the impression I'd got from talking to a fair few hobbyists. Good to know, thank you! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> L. Wrex]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 May 2011 08:28:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lycaeus Wrex]]></author>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ On another sidenote, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span> Vallejo does not have an equivalent to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> Foundation Colours (yet). <br /> Please correct me if I'm wrong - I'm desperately searching for an alternative to Necron Abyss.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 May 2011 08:46:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ashrag]]></author>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Ashrag wrote:</cite>On another sidenote, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span> Vallejo does not have an equivalent to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> Foundation Colours (yet). <br /> Please correct me if I'm wrong - I'm desperately searching for an alternative to Necron Abyss.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They do now, the Game Color "heavy" paints.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you for this information, ArmorOfContempt. I will look those up immediately <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<title>Converting from GW to Vallejo - anything I need to know?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Ashrag wrote:</cite>Thank you for this information, ArmorOfContempt. I will look those up immediately <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> From what I understand (I only have experience with the red, but I have read that it's the same case with the orange), the VGC Heavy paints are a slightly deeper color than their Foundation equivalents, but they're still pretty close and they cover just as well, better, I've found, in the case of the red.]]></description>
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