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				<description><![CDATA[ Having seen the writing on the spreadsheet I have decided that I will finally take the plunge into Warmahordes<br /> I have always liked the look of the Trollbloods models and cool being one important element was wondering what I would be best served to collect as an army<br /> My local scene is VERY VERY VERY competitive so while I am a noob I would like something that would give me at least a chance at victory after I get the rules down<br /> <br /> Can you help me Dakka? I would like a competitive list for 15/20-25/35 point levels <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> oh one other thing - is the Dire Troll Blitzer any good? Cause I LOVE LOVE LOVE the way the model looks! Other than that I have no preferences one way or another (total noob remember <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> )<br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Having looked further at the models that interest me, what if anything could I generate using the following<br /> <br /> Earthborn Dire Troll<br /> Dire Troll Mauler<br /> Dire Troll Blitzer<br /> Troll Bouncer<br /> KrielStone Bearer and Scribes<br /> LongRiders<br /> Trollkin Sluggers<br /> Trollkin Champions<br /> Trollblood Rune shapers<br /> Fellcaller<br /> Trollkin Hero<br /> and then<br /> Madrak or Hoarluk<br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ welcome to hordes. im a warmachine player but i have had stinits in the hordes side of the game a few times over the years.<br /> <br /> trolls are a hard hitting faction that really benefit from buffs that they can layer on their units from different support units. the infantry also has tough (think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> on a 5+) and are usually quite hard hitting. <br /> <br /> the blitzer is very good. he is better with some warlocks than others. <br /> <br /> Madrak is the beginning warlock that exists in the box set, i have no real experience with him, but looking over his info he is a melee beatstick that supports his army by boosting their combat potential.<br /> <br /> Epic Madrak is a beater i have used alot. he likes to maximize on reach troops and weaponmasters and less so on beasts, usually you will see champs, fennblades and longriders with him.<br /> <br /> Epic Hoarluk (eDoomie) is a beast warlock that likes alot of beasts. he runs them well and can really manage them well with the help of whelps.<br /> <br /> so with therese warlocks maybe you want to start with:<br /> <br /> 35 points:<br /> <br /> Chief Madrak Ironhide <br /> Troll Axer<br /> Troll Bouncer<br /> Dire Troll Blitzer<br /> Trollkin Runebearer<br /> Krielstone Bearer and 3 Stone Scribes<br /> Krielstone Stone Scribe Elder<br /> Trollkin Champions (Leader and 4 Grunts)<br /> Fell Caller Hero<br /> Troll Whelps<br /> <br /> this is sort of a meat and potatos list. it brings the champs to handle heavy armor, but madrak can do this as well, so can the fellcaller. the blitzer offers a bit of ranged ability, as can the spray from the fellcaller. the trolll axer has thresher, so that makes him a solid choice to end hordes of infantry, he also has a really good animus.<br /> <br /> the only troll warlock i use regularly is Grim Angus. a ranged warlock that has alot of oddball spells and abilities that really screw with the enemy.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 May 2011 18:26:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks, looks interesting, any other suggestions are welcomed<br /> <br /> got a lot of reading to do I guess, learn a whole new game system <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 00:38:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Champions are your friends.  I take two full units in most games with Borka and they can really lay the smack down upon anything.<br /> <br /> I take only two beasts with Kegslayer, two units of Champs, the champ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span> hero, a champ hero, two fell callers and a Stone.<br /> <br /> Its a crazy amount of Weapon Master and multiple heavy infantry models.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 01:00:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would be great if I understood half of what you just said <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> total noob to hordes/warmachine, plenty of other experience though<br /> <br /> Like the heavy beasts though champs look good, really like WWI <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MG</span>'s in trolls hands, is that unit any good?<br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 04:13:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PapaSmurf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Trolls excel at <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>HTH</span>. Their ranged units can be good but most of the synergies they have work with their melee skill.<br /> <br /> That said, you can make them work with ranged units. Grim Angus (warcaster) supports ranged well and Calandra (warcaster) supports most anything because she alters the dice rolls.<br /> <br /> You will certainly want at least one tarpit unit to bog the enemies units down. Typically these are Fennblades or Kriel warriors.<br /> <br /> Not sure what the rules are about mentioning other sites but there are extensive tactics articles and list building advice to be found elsewhere.<br /> <br /> Google is your friend.<br /> <br /> J--]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 04:29:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you could direct me I would appreciate it, surfed for some stuff but seems a little out of date? <br /> <br /> I am starting to see that Hoarlok likes beasts, Angus shoots, Madrak beats stuff not sure about the others, sound about right?<br /> <br /> really just starting so the more info I can get the better<br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 20:11:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 21:07:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Complete Noob looking to start TROLLS!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not a troll player but have been on the receiving end.  You might give Janessa Stonetide a look, her mobile wall bit has screwed up MANY of my plans against them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 21:18:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Cerebrium wrote:</cite>I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.</div></blockquote><br /> Note that you should probably take everything on BattleCollege with a grain of salt.  It's a decent place to get a quick overview of what models do, but their knowledge of how rules work is rather lacking most of the time.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 21:36:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think I could recommend <a href="http://www.trollbloodscrum.com/p/tactics-guides-strategies.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Trollblood Scrum</a> more highly.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 May 2011 22:31:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>PapaSmurf wrote:</cite>If you could direct me I would appreciate it, surfed for some stuff but seems a little out of date? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Troll Scrum is a great resource. Here is a link to the Trollblood community elsewhere in the ether... <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <a href="http://privateerpressforums.com/forumdisplay.php?18-Trollbloods-Community" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Troll Secrets</a><br /> <br /> I'm a fairly new Trollblood player myself and I've found this to be an excellent source.<br /> <br /> J--]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Oathbreaker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks guys, good looking stuff!<br /> <br /> cheers<br /> <br /> Papasmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 May 2011 12:56:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PapaSmurf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Laughing Man wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Cerebrium wrote:</cite>I've only just started myself, and I've found BattleCollege REALLY useful (google it). It gives a complete list of all the models, their relative power and a breakdown of their abilities.</div></blockquote><br /> Note that you should probably take everything on BattleCollege with a grain of salt.  It's a decent place to get a quick overview of what models do, but their knowledge of how rules work is rather lacking most of the time.</div></blockquote><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(267);'>QFT</span>.  I have come across rules and tips that don't work quite the way that they say it does.  But it does give a decent outline of most models, and they do have some good ideas, but make sure that you double check a lot of the rules for the cool ideas you see on there.  Of course, that's just how wikis are.]]></description>
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