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I am starting a 15 point army and was looking at

Captain Jeremiah Kaye
Lancer
Lancer
Centurion

The only week Jack I can see is the Centurion because of the speed and the fact that I have no real shooting to speak of. The other players at the moment will be Retribution, Khador Starter + something and Menoth starter + something. I really like the fact that Kaye turns all of my Jacks into cavalry and gives them the ability to move faster etc.

I am then thinking of expanding this force too:

Captain Jeremiah Kaye
Lancer
Lancer
Centurion
Black 13th Gun Mage
1 Gun Mage Unit
Mechaniks w/ 2 gobbos
Journeyman Warcaster
Charger

At 35 points. What do you think?

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you want hunters, since they can pop armor from decent ranges and can move again after they shoot since they are light cav thanks to kraye.

the centurion is a popular choice for kraye. cast full tilt on him turn one and upkeep it all game. SPD 8 with reach is very nice. i prefer a stormclad, but thats just me.

for your 35 pointer i would get the squire in there for sure, since he is one of the best solos in the game. he gives you more focus and more control area. so i would go:

Captain Jeremiah Kraye
Hunter
Sentinel
Centurion
Squire
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages (Leader and 5 Grunts)
Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer
Black 13th Gun Mage Strike Team
Rangers
Journeyman Warcaster

so in the battlegroup we have a hunter, for ranged shots on armor, a sentinel, which is a solid choiuce to keep close to Kraye. shieldguard can take care of the occasional shot that comes kraye's way. His gatling gun can also be made really scary when kraye casts guided fire. The centurion is the beatstick you keep full tilt on. the squire is there becuase he is always there.

gun mages help against stealth, which helps kraye since he doesnt want to be casting mage sight alot, the UA really buffs the unit to a godly level. the rangers are a solid choice for getting close and getting your stuff an additional +2 on attack rolls at ranged. the idea is to run one up close to a model you want to hit and get the bonus, since its a passive ability it works even though you ran. black 13th cuz everyone loves them. and a jr warcaster for arcane shield. i would cast AS on kraye and upkeep it all game, but dont overlook the potential of a fully boosted handcannon shot as well.




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Might consider replacing the Centurion with a Stormclad. Slightly less survivable, but it hits harder, and with Full Tilt and Kraye's Feat, it can pull off an assassination run from 17" away.

Finally, you might consider Kraye's tier list. It can be brutally effective, between the Black 13th, Rangers, and a plethora of 'Jacks with guns. Can't take Junior or a Squire, IIRC, but it's honestly not a bad trade for the benefits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2820896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2820896.page GMT
I think more of the Charger than the Sentinel, but they are focus hungry. If you can't give it at least one per turn there isn't much point, and Kraye does synergize well with Sentinels. I think a Cyclone would be a better option, though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2826111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2826111.page GMT
As for the Firefly, while it loses a bit without Stormsmiths on the table, it's still potentially a SPD 12 jack with a fairly powerful reach weapon. Under the feat and fully loaded, it's easily capable of killing most Warcasters.
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Although to be honest I have now been looking at the legion of everblight now, one of my mates is taking on this army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2851254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/369764/2851254.page GMT