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				<description><![CDATA[ I've been tossing around some idea's for a competitive Space marine army list and I really want to try out some space marine bikes.I have a couple variant lists I'd like to try but wanted some feedback to see if I am missing anything. I'll start with my 2x command squad on bike army.<br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> Space marine captain - 180 <br /> bike ,relic blade, storm shield<br /> <br /> space marine captain -180<br /> bike , relic blade, storm shield<br /> <br /> command squad - 350<br /> bikes, <br /> 2x melta bombs<br /> 4x storm shield<br /> 3x Lightning claw<br /> 1x thunder hammer<br /> <br /> command squad -350<br /> ^same as above ^<br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> <br /> space marine bike squad - 185<br /> 1 extra marine <br /> 2 melta guns<br /> 1 attack bike w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> <br /> space marine bike squad- 185<br /> ^same as above^<br /> <br /> That is 1430 points for my core list with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> and 2 Troop<br /> <br /> I am iffy on what to add next was thinking something like this<br /> <br /> <b>troop</b><br /> <br /> Tact squad -142<br /> 6 marines <br /> 1 lascannon<br /> 1 melta gun<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy</b><br /> <br /> Land raider -250<br /> to carry tact squad in to sit on an objective<br /> or general fire support<br /> <br /> Predator -85<br /> Heavy bolter<br /> <br /> Predator -85<br /> heavy bolter<br /> <br /> That would be 1992 points. It's very light on actual models which can be bad for me in a 2k list. could also drop Land raider and predators for 3 vindicators for more close range fire support<br /> which would free up 75 pts for a Razorback transport w/las for the tact squad. I'll post some more later once I get a feel for the responses.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ hollyotto]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know you're trying to get as many bikes as you can but taking two Captains and two Command Squads isn't going to help. You're paying a second "Biker Captain" tax just to get another Command Squad. Combined those units are costing 1060 points over half your army!<br /> <br /> What you have isn't really a true bike list. It's got some bikes and then some Tacticals just pissing in the wind because they have no transport as the Land Raider isn't a affective fire bunker for them.<br /> <br /> If you want a true biker list try this:<br /> <br /> Captain - relic blade, storm shield, aux grenade launcher & bike<br /> Command Squad - 4 x plasma guns & bikes<br /> <br /> 8 x Space Marine Bikers + Attack Bike - 2 x meltaguns - Attack Bike w/ multi melta - Sgt w/ power fist<br /> 8 x Space Marine Bikers + Attack Bike - 2 x meltaguns - Attack Bike w/ multi melta - Sgt w/ power fist<br /> 8 x Space Marine Bikers + Attack Bike - 2 x meltaguns - Attack Bike w/ multi melta - Sgt w/ power fist<br /> <br /> Land Speeder - typhoon missile launcher<br /> Land Speeder - typhoon missile launcher<br /> Land Speeder - typhoon missile launcher<br /> <br /> 5 x Devastators - 4 x missile launchers<br /> 5 x Devastators - 4 x missile launchers<br /> <br /> Check points because I haven't. You've now got a single Captain who is giving a benefit and not costing points just to get something. You've got a Command Squad who can dish out plasma death and has feel no pain just incase. You have a lot more Biker troops with meltas and power fist for smashing stuff. Typhoons and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Devs</span> add missile launchers, the only true vehicles in this list is the Typhoons minimising the opponents anti tank making it almost worthless.<br /> <br /> Oh I wrote this list sometime ago so I am not sure how valid it is but it has Dreadnoughts and Bikers which is something different: <a href="http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2010/02/army-lists-dreadnoughts-bikes-with-hint.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2010/02/army-lists-dreadnoughts-bikes-with-hint.html</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 May 2011 14:47:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k vanilla marine bike list.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I can definitely see your points on this list mercer. I'm currently limited in my capacity to field bikes (because I don't have that many) so was looking to make more of a hybrid army perhaps?<br /> <br /> Maybe another list I could use would look like this.<br /> <br /> captain -relic blade storm shield bike -180<br /> <br /> Command squad-4x melta gun-4xStorm Shield -2xThunderhammer -365<br /> <br /> 7x space marine bikers + attack bike -2 meltaguns -attack bike w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> -sgt w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>-285<br /> 7x space marine bikers + attack bike -2 meltaguns -attack bike w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> -sgt w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>-285<br /> 10x tact squad Missile & flammer w/rhino transport - 205<br /> 10x tact sqaud Missile & flammer w/rhino transport - 205<br /> <br /> Land speeder typhoon missile launcher -90<br /> Land speeder typhoon missile launcher -90<br /> <br /> Predator w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> 85<br /> Predator w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> 85<br /> Predator w/Las 120<br /> <br /> 1995 pts total fielding 49 models with 7 vehicles. I like plasma but have a bad habit of rolling overheat so I like to use melta's when I can. not to mention on the bikes its more like a 24" range at S8 ap1. Figured I would turbo boost bikes first turn to harass transport/vehicles on the following turn, and set up firing lanes for pred/Land speeders. what do you think?<br />  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 May 2011 23:41:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ hollyotto]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think that's actually too bad man. I think you will do well with it. Give it a whirl and let me know how you do <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 May 2011 12:51:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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