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CSM 2000pts List

MrPhok — GMT

HQ
-Abbadon The Despoiler=275pts

Elites
-4 Terminators>MoK, 2 PF, 3 C.Flamers, 1 Heavy Flamer=190pts
Dedicated transport Land Raider=220pts
Troops
-8 Berzerkers>Champion -1 Rhino> C.Melta=45pts
-8 Berzerkers>Champion -1 Rhino> C.Melta=45pts
-7 Plague Marines>2 Plasma Guns=191pts
-7 Plague Marines>2 Melta Guns=181pts

Heavy Support
-1 Defiler>1 CCA, Reaper=150pts
-1 Defiler>1 CCA, Reaper=150pts
-2 Obliterators=150pts

Grand Total=2013pts

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The idea in this list is to deny objectives with my bikes and destroy my opponents' army with the termies and Abbadon who go together in the Land Raider.
Defilers provide supporting fire while my zerkers clear anything still alive.
I need comments...

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putrid one — GMT

i don't see the LR tht Abbadon is ment 2 go round in, either way tht would make 4 Heavy support which ur not allowed.. plus only 2 troop choices in a 2k game is just going to get munched. get rid of the extra armour and combi-weapon on the rhino as are just wasted points because they die any way so spend the points on more berzerkers. Finally you need a LR for Abbadon and the termies so do well as deep striking takes to long to get into combat and foot slogging is NOT a good idea.

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Vryce — GMT

Yeah, you have no reliable tank hunting in this list @ all. The Defilers aren't going to last very long, you might have one make it to the end of the game and that's only if you're lucky. For the same price as your Defiler's you can get 2 Oblits, which would be my suggestion. Or Havocs w/ ML/AC to deal w/ armor @ range. You need @ least two more troops in a 2k list, two squads of Berzerkers just isn't going to cut it. You're bikes are WAY to expensive for how quick they're going to be taken out. W/ those ~300 pts you can put in a decent sized PM squad w/ a couple of melta's, a champ w/ fist & a Rhino.

Speaking of Rhino's, take the EA off of them, but personally I would keep the combi-melta's. You NEED a LR for your HQ & retinue - you can take a LR as a dedicated transport for your termies & it doesn't use a HS slot.

~Vryce

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MrPhok — GMT

Yes I know I need a Raider.
When I hand-wrote the list there was a Raider and in the list I've posted I just forgot to right it. I'll edit it again.

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I also changed some things and I think it looks better.

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Brothererekose — GMT

I disagree with the advice on getting rid of EA on rhinos for KhorneBs. Their job is to deliver the berzerkers, and EA ensures that.

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fantastic! — GMT

Abaddon with four termies in a LR is going to be a little less than a 3rd of your total points. I've read a lot of remarks about not taking Abaddon in serious games below 2250-2500 pts. His unit is costing you transports for two squads of troops (rhinos are a necessity of life for all your troops!). His unit is costing you upgrades for your other squads, and even the LR he rides in. Abaddon and that unit is just too much of a points sink!

Now that I've said that, I usually run Abaddon with 4 LC termies with MoK. A massive assault monster. Everyone re-rolls wounds! Abaddon's initiative will beat a lot of others, and unless his daemon weapon rolls a 1 for attacks he is going to hurt the enemy bad. The termies are there to finish the job. Their sheer number of attacks with the mark and the fact that they can re-roll wounds more than makes up for their average S and WS imo.