haizelhoff wrote:I would divide the scourge squad into 2x5. This way you can still shoot at the same target if you wish to, but you can also shoot at two different targets. This way also the haywire blasters can stay at 18-24'' where they excel, and the heatlances can close in to get into melta range.

Grim Smasha wrote:No, don't put CC weapons on Hammys. That's a bad idea. If hammys get caught in combat, they die, and give up KP. Never give them CC weapons. Liquifiers and gizmos like Crucibles and Shattershards are their friends, not agonizers. I can tell you flat out, without any doubt whatsoever, you have no where near enough anti-tank for 1750. Armored lists WILL destroy you.

Deraiderspam wrote:To be honest, I run a Pretty Much all Coven list, And I'm not a huge fan of this list, in my opinion WWP and Scourges don't work, why take 22 a model for something you can get better for in a trueborn squad? 5 mad Scourge squad with 2 heatlances is 132 Points (Don't have my codex to hand, sorry about any wrong pointing) and are very fragile and must be close to the enemy. which makes them a wide open week target. And then of course, you have the solarite, which I would never take even if I did take scourges. extra points wasted. It'd be better to put a unit of 4 trueborn with 4 blasters in a raider for 178 points, yes it 44 points more expensive, but you get 3 extra str 8 lance weapons which work better at range. Scourges come out 66 points a lance, trueborn workout 35 points, you can see where the saving is for AT capability. Personally I don't like Talos' either, there better than Cronos by a long shot though, I recommend either replacing both The talos and Cronos and taking more Ravagers, or replacing the cronos for a Talos, and kit both talos' out for AT, Cronos' don't work in Coven list because you already have feel no pain, and most units will be getting their own pain tokens by the time the cronos is in reach of anyone. CC weapons on wracks and Haemonculi, not the best. I like my Wracks to be little and cheap, with a liquifier, and they don't cost much and still do damage. and Haemonculi shouldn't be in the thick of it, they are kills points you don't want to lose. Grotesques not my thing either, I know you go for a coven list, but they don't really have a role, beside take fire like beasty's they are, because they don't do enough damage, they're not quite infantry, and not quite MC, Just a waste of Points and Space in my opinion.
Hope you Take My Views into Account
DEraiderspam

Grim Smasha wrote:You must have a huge sum of expendable income if you plan on purchasing an army just for show I'm boiling slightly with envy the thought of what wracks cost, especially on Aussie-land, makes me cringe.