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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey dakkadakka, I'm halfway through my second read of Steven Savile's <i>Vampire Wars</i> and have been inspired to step away from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> for a while and try warhammer, with the vampire counts army. So I was just wondering what kind of a 500 pt list would be decent. I'm not necessarily looking for competitive as I mostly play with friends and family (not a tournament guy) but I don't want to A) buy the wrong models, or B) get thrashed. I was thinking something like...<br /> <br /> Leader:<br /> (1) Vampire w/ Sword of might, and the flayed Hauberk: 140<br /> Troops:<br /> (40) Zombies: 160<br /> (40) Zombies: 160<br /> (5) Dire Wolves: 40<br /> Total: 500<br /> I don't have the actual army book for them, I was using one I found on a website. It claimed it was 7th ed. which I hope was most recent. As such please correct any mistakes, and any help for this list is welcome. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Th3 Gh0st]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ranged armies like wood elves would really eat you up - just shooting and laughing.<br /> <br /> I think you'd do well against elite armies like brets.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If nothing else, I'd look to get Forbidden Lore on the vampire.  It'll give you some casting flexibility, and the ability to use all your dice each magic phase.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:03:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd drop some zombies for skeletons or ghouls. Keep the zombie models for raising new units. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:15:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lexx]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ change 1 unit with zombies to ghouls. Zombies will probably win a fight. dire wolves <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span> sux in 8th. Its very hard to build a competetive 500p <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>vc</span> list <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> *(zombies will probably never win a fight)<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> *(Zombies will probably never win a fight).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:08:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Slaffsorre - At 500 pts I think any army is hard to be competitive. Having said that it's probably more for him to have fun, and 500pt games can be very cool. I like the idea of hordes of zombies advancing on a unit of HE or Empire swordsmen haha]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:20:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eagleeye]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Eagleeye- yeah I agree that any army has problem with 500 pts, but some armys fits more likely to it. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>Vc</span> have expensive units to compensate the fact that they can be healed. In 500 you cant really get so much for healing. <br /> All im saying that he didnt wanted to be thrashed. With that in mind all im saying is that zombies never do so well. (with the current <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>vc</span> rules that is) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:37:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ slaffsorre]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well, looking over the suggestions ( which I appreciate) I think I'll try a couple of games with the different units offered and see how it goes. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:36:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Th3 Gh0st]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would replace your zombies with Ghouls or skeletons (Ghouls if you want a competitive list).<br /> <br /> <br /> Fluff wise zombies are awesome. I would love to play my zombies, but they aren't worth the points to buy outright. I do use the Raise Dead spell all game long though. Raised zombies popping up out of nowhere can really challenge your opponents strategy!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:51:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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