<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever! Hey guys, I need help. I'm brand new to 40K, i've gone and bought a massive Tyranid army from a mate and now i'm going to fight him with it. However, with no experience, i don't know what would be best to include in such a small army. This is everything i have to select from:

Trygon Prime
Carnifex x 2
Gargoyle x 10
Zoanthrope x 2
Biovore
Warrior x 6
lictor
Ravenor x 3
Genestealers x 16
Hormogants x 23
Ripper Swarm x 5
Termagaunt x 30
Spore mines x 9 (Though i don't know if they count)

Now my mate is playing Space Marines and i know he'll be using a Dreadnaught which he plans on sitting at the back of the army and smashing me from a distance with lascannons and something else. He'll also be fielding a land raider, Librarian (his HQ unit), ummm... A devestator squad packing at least 4 missile launchers and i think there'll be a Sergeant with powerfist in there somewhere as well. Anyone care to give me some advice coz i'm clueless at the moment. What should i take? What upgrades should i use? Would it pay to field my Gargoyles to molest the devestators? Any help would be greatly appreciated!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957952.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
You don't have a HQ unit unless you want to convert a warrior into a Tyranid Prime.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957953.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957953.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever! HQ unit, but at 240 points it'll make up 1/4 of my army. I probably will upgrade a warrior to a Prime. Seems like the best idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957972.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2957972.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
A Tyranid Warror Prime is the only HQ model you have in that list. However, Carnefexs make perfect proxies for Tervigons as, along with Tyranofexes, they are essentally the same chassis and there is currently not Tervigon model released.

Speaking of proxying with only one Lictor, there won't be any confusion running it as the Deathleaper, which with only one is the better choice. A Zoanthrope by itself also make for a fine Doom of Malan'tai.

You have poor ranged anti-AV in that list of models though, so you'll pretty much have to use the Zoanthropes and/or kit out the canefexes to be ranged anti-AV depending on the point level.
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TyraNeil wrote:Ok, so you'd recommend Tervigons and tyranofexes over Carnifexes? In a 1000pt army, what would be best to take out a dreadnaught? I think that'll be the thing that hurts me the most.


I wouldn't go so far as to recommend that, more like I was just expanding your range of options based on models available. Given accomodating opponents I'd probably want to take the carnefexes models as tervigon troop choices (with catalyst), via 2 x (10 termagaunts with devourer). Then 2 x (1 zoanthrope) for anti-vehicle/infantry, and a Warrior Prime for HQ.

That seems like a good point at which to start considering the models you own, get a dozen or so games in against a variety of oppoents and you'll figure out how to improve it with additional purchases. Just be careful about those Zoanthropes in a list like this, they'll be very important turns 2-3, be a deadly blow if you allow them to get obliterated first turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2958947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2958947.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
Tyranid Prime w/ Twin Boneswords
Warrior x 5
Zoanthrope x 2
Gargoyle x 10 with AG and Toxin Sacs
Genestealers x 9 w/ Ag, TS + Broodlord w/ implant attack
10 x Hormies
20 x Termies

= 837 points so far.

Now, should i cut some of this back to make room for a carnifex or Tervigon? Or should I just upgrade the bejesus out of everything i already have?

My Noob plan at the moment is to tie him up in close combat with the Gargoyles against his heavy hitters so that i hae less casualties amongst my other guys whilst they charge. I'll also run my termies ahead of my Thropes as a barricade, then have them go to town on the dreadnought. Any helpful criticism would be greatly appreciated.

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Run stealers as one squad with toxin sacs - TS and AG together is too expensive.

Try this:

HQ tervigon, AG, TS, catalyst 195
TROOP tervigon AG, TS, catlayst 195
TROOP 10 termagants 50
TROOP 16 stealers TS 272
TROOP 17 hormogants 170
ELITE 2 zoanthropes + mycetic spore (proxy) 160
ELITE 2 hive guard 100
ELITE 2 hive guard 100
HS trygon prime AG 250

That's 1492 points. Use the warriors as hive guard and find something suitable for a mycetic spore for the zoanthropes. Run the trygon in with the tervigons so they can give it FNP. That'll be competitve enough for now while you get sorted.

EDIT: just lrealised you wanted 1,000 points. Drop the trygon and hormogaunts and trim steales down to 12.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2967105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2967105.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2967321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2967321.page GMT Re:1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
ruminator wrote:
Try this:

HQ tervigon, AG, TS, catalyst 195
TROOP tervigon AG, TS, catlayst 195
TROOP 10 termagants 50
TROOP 16 stealers TS 272
TROOP 17 hormogants 170
ELITE 2 zoanthropes + mycetic spore (proxy) 160
ELITE 2 hive guard 100
ELITE 2 hive guard 100
HS trygon prime AG 250

That's 1492 points. Use the warriors as hive guard and find something suitable for a mycetic spore for the zoanthropes. Run the trygon in with the tervigons so they can give it FNP. That'll be competitve enough for now while you get sorted.

EDIT: just lrealised you wanted 1,000 points. Drop the trygon and hormogaunts and trim steales down to 12.


Good advice from ruminator, but you do not have the hive guard right now, so I would look to run this instead:

HQ tervigon, AG, TS, catalyst 195
TROOP tervigon TS (or AG), catlayst 185
TROOP 10 termagants 50
TROOP 12 stealers TS 204
ELITE 2 zoanthropes + mycetic spore (proxy) 160
HS trygon 200
Total: 994

Though I would look to buy those hive guard first.

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Nerdfest09]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2973491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/2973491.page GMT Re:1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!

HQ: Librarian, Epistolary,Plasma pistol, smite, GoI- 165

Troops: 10 man Tac squad,Multi melta, Power fist- 200
Troops: 10 man Tac squad, Heavy bolter,flamer,power fist- 195

Elite: 5 man assault Terminator squad, 2 thunder hammers, 3 lightning claws- 200
Elite: Venerable Dreadnought, Flamer, assault cannon- 175

Transport: Rhino, bolter- 45
Transport: Rhino, bolter- 45

Total: 1,025 points

Any advice for either of us to have an enjoyable and cinematic game would be appreciated, if it was only a week or so later I would have a much more competitive list but due to time restraints i believe I'll be unable to finish the units i'll need to actually defeat him!
Never mind it'll be fun anyway, a learning experience for both of us! and it'll be nice for Tyraneal to utterly destroy me on his first outing!

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I shall make it up to you with this....Demian.....there i spelt mine wrong too! lol :-) even?


see you wed morning!


Nerdfest09]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3017282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3017282.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
HQ Tervigon, AG, TS and Scything Talons - 200
Troop 8 x Stealers, TS, AG - 160
Troop 7 x Stealers TS, AG - 160, Broodlord Scything Talons, AB, IA, AG, TS - 78
Elite 2 x Zoanthropes + Mycetic Spore - 160
HS Trygon Prime, AG, TS - 250

Total: 1018 points.

What does everyone think? By the time i get round to checking this site again, i will have already tested it out. though any tips on improvement would be appreciated fr future reference.

I don't have much of a plan, i think i'm just going to unleash on Nerdfests army and try and over run him. Hopefully my Tervigon won't dry up his supply of Termies so i can just spam him with them. Wish me luck]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3028735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3028735.page GMT 1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3028780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3028780.page GMT Re:1k Tyranid army. I need help with my very first battle ever!
18 points over is a big no-no. Unsure what to lose though.


The other guy is over with 25 points so it should be fine, besides it's just a friendly

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Swordwind wrote:18 points over is a big no-no. Unsure what to lose though.


Yeah tis all good, we've discussed it and given each other a 50ish point leeway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3029302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/377164/3029302.page GMT