http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Total: 180

Command Squad -Bikes -4 lightning claws -2 storm shields
Total: 295

Chaplain -Bike
Total: 135

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike
Total: 165

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike
Total: 165

Predator -Las Sponsoons
Total: 120

Vindicator -Dozer Blade
Total: 120

Vindicator
Total: 115

What do you think now?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2986239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2986239.page GMT PF there.

The list looks solid, its fast and packs a punch. My only thing is that first, the Iornclad looks a little out of place. Idk what you're trying to do with him? One of my buddies did this with every list, and I always killed it the next turn. So you you want a to distract your opponent then its great for that otherwise I just don't know if it fits with the rest of the list. But thats just me.

Landspeeders seem to fit in perfectly, as well as the Vindicator. Idk if you've ever tried Scout bikes w/ Melta bombs (idk if they can get them anymore), but that was always my favorite trick when I played. Turbo boost, then assault a Leman Russ that hasn't moved yet or something. Anyways good luck.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988042.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988042.page GMT pw and a th. kills everything in cc, also get backpacks then they keep the fast theme.
yes give the pf to the meltagun sqds.
also take a bike sgd out an max out the others.
also i would trade in some of the ls missile launchers for assault cannons, an heavy bolters for some multimeltas.
also have you thought about a all lassacannon predator? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988066.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988066.page GMT cc unit anyway but the ironclad is decent at distracting. I've tried a normal assault squad but found they didn't have enough punch but a vanguard squad should. I'll try out the 5 man squads for a bit and see if their survivable enough or if I need to max out the squads. I think I'll keep the missile launchers on the speeders to keep some long range fire. If I fnd that the typhoons don't have enough fire power then I may add a las predator.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2988904.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2989423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2989423.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2989547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2989547.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2990868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2990868.page GMT PFs in a 5 man bike squad is really a waste. Vanguard squad is simply waaaay to expensive for what you get. 40pts/model that only has a +3 save is not good at all. If you feel the need to include a CC squad then go for the command squad on bikes instead.

While keeping as close to your original list I would go for something like this:

Space Marine Captain - Bike - Relic blade
Total: 165
Command Squad (Bikes, 4xPlasma, 2xStorm Shields, PF) = 320

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike Total: 165

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike Total: 165

Landspeeder Squadron -Missle launcher - hvy bolter x 2
Total: 180

Landspeeder Squadron -Missle launcher - hvy bolter x 2
Total: 180

Predator = 60

Predator = 60

More bikes, same amout of long range fire, better CC and two predators that can act as cheapish mobile cover/LOS blocker that also carries a gun. Either for your Typhoons or for your advancing bikes]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2992860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2992860.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2993451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2993451.page GMT pf and take more storm shields but thats just me . I like the idea of taking two preds and using them as cover because land speeders are soft and there aernt that many men in my squads either. Sadly the predators wouldnt have much firepower but for 60 points each its not that bad. The pf in the bike squads probably wouldnt be a good idea for me anyway since Id probably think assaulting would be a good idea then . Overall i like the list tedurur.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2993642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2993642.page GMT cc surport, couls put the cs withh all pw. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2995527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2995527.page GMT id have see if I should have them for cc or range probably cc though. Probably give most of em lightning claw with ss if I have the points. Although the land speeders could be shot at they would get a cover save which would help for survivability by hiding behind the predators or vindicator. I will have to see if 2 predators or one vindicator is better. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2998196.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/2998196.page GMT
If you drop it you can fit in another Typhoon and a couple Meltaguns on the Command Squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3001039.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3001039.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3007287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3007287.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3010394.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3010394.page GMT . Sadly though I couldnt take that many vindicators and preds because that would be too many hvy. support slots .


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So I took out the speeders and added a vindicator, las pred added a bike chappy and gave captain relic armour. What do you think about the change?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3014781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3014781.page GMT
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i think your spot on. protect the HQ choice as he will be your strong point in cc.plenty of antitank and anti troop fire now! brilliant.

What about: command sqd 4 lightning claws, TH 295pts then you have the ability to kill most 40k charters in cc easily and any tank.
Also i did look at white scar hero and i think your captain(for the points is better). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3026125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378601/3026125.page GMT