http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/27.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net WM and I have only played battle box games so far. I have started to make up some lists for 15pts and have narrowed it down to 2 lists.

List 1

Strakhov

wardog

beast 09

destroyer

List 2

eButcher

wardog

doomies
UA

jugger

fenris

So there you go I am kinda leaning towards list one because it would be cheaper to build of the battle box but when I play with my battle box againts my friends everblight his carnivean always seems to cause me problems. I really need both jacks to team up on him to take him out but his carni usually gets the charge and kills one jack leaving me hard pressed to do anything to him. That is what I dont like about the 1st list in only has two jacks but strakhovs speed boosts could have me charging him more often than not.

for list two I cant see much wrong with it but It would be boring expanding it any further because of the tier requierments of only doom reavers allowed. What do you guys think?


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I was I comparing butcher to his epic incarnation and I think that butcher might be a better caster because of most of my opponents use armies with low model count so eButch's homicidal maniac and feat won't be effective so I came up with a pButh list

PButcher

Wardog

Jugger

Destroyer

Widow makers ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2988317.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2988317.page GMT eButcher suffers at low points because he wants loads of enemy troops to kill. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2991057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2991057.page GMT Btw for 25pts I was thinking about adding another jugger then a MOW konvik to marshall my destroyer what do you think about that idea. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2993831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/2993831.page GMT imho. pSorscha is fantastic at 15 points for her ridiculous wind rush boundless charge feat fuelled assasination run from one side of the board to the other!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3029020.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3029020.page GMT
it will be the cheapest to upgrade to. since your getting only a War Dog, pButcher and a Widowmakers unit. yourlooking and 50-60$ compared to getting models for your other lists.

Character jacks are 40+ casters are 15~ 20 for Epic Casters. War Dog is fairly cheap. Fenris is like buying a Character jack. he is 40-50$ plus Doomies, UA, Dog and Caster. List 2 is the most expensive list you have up there.

i started with the Battlebox as well. you seem to favor 'Jacks in the 15pt range. not uncommon but if you like running Jacks as your favored maybe look into a Harkevich list or a pVlad list. Harky is a new Caster from Wrath and pVlad has some punch power if you run all jacks. however your favoring melee, i would maybe look into pVlad lists IF you like to run Jacks. myself i like Ranged Jacks and Heavy hitting Melee Units lol. its just something to think about. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031250.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031886.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031886.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031908.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031934.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3031934.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035273.page GMT
a 15pt Harky... he has 5WJP so you can have an effective 20 point list before WJP.

Harky (5WJP)
-Black Ivan 10pt
-Destroyer 9pt
?? 1pt

supplement with something like the Dog, Reinholdt, or some other 1pt Solo.

Black ivan is Harky's Character 'Jack. he is pretty much a Destroyer with a giant claw VS a Executioner's Axe. as well as the bonuses for being in Harky's Battlegroup. i believe its free boosts to ranged Attacks. Destroyer could be swapped out for another Ranged 'Jack. Harkevich is a Ranged 'Jack caster. he has an Upkeepable spell that adds +2" you your Jacks movement. he also has a upkeepable spell that allows you to reroll missed ranged attacks. and lastly the spell you abuse is Broadside. all your 'Jacks with ranged weapons can make a ranged attack ignoring RoF. his Feat allows your Jacks to run or Charge for Free, and if they charge they can make a ranged attack before their charge. and it does one other thing. i think it boosts something. there are 3 things his feat does. Honestly he would be better in a 25+ army. when you can get 3 ranged jacks and some beat sticks. my Harky list will call for Behemoth. with Broadside on deat turn thats 8 cannon shots ^^

Harky may be my first 50point list lol. otherwise i play just 35pt lists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035761.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/378721/3035922.page GMT