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				<description><![CDATA[ I recently picked up a large lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, and having never played them, or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> for that matter before, I've been working on a list and now looking for comments.<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Wings, Warptime, 175 pts<br /> Daemon Prince, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Wings, Warptime, 175 pts<br /> <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>, 2x Melta, Rhino, 255pts<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>, 2x Melta, Rhino, 255pts<br /> 5 Plague Marines, 2x Melta, Rhino, 175pts<br /> 10 Bezerkers, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Icon, Rhino, 290pts<br /> <br /> 3 Obliterators, 225pts<br /> Defiler, 150pts<br /> Defiler, 150pts<br /> <br /> Total: 1850pts<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:49:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Pretty good first list with only two things:<br /> 1. I'd add Extra Armor to the KhorneBs' rhino, as they need to get into h2h and EA ensures that.<br /> 2. I don't see a need for an icon on those KhorneBs, they're already Fearless. And you won't be Deep Striking those Oblits, right?<br /> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Brothererekose]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 Chaos Space Marine List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Good point. Removing the Icon and adding the EA leaves me 10pts over. Suggestions?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:55:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 Chaos Space Marine List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Would I be better off switching one of the meltas for a flamer in each of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads or removing the Icon from one of them instead?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:28:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would keep the melta guns on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span>'s go with both of the same when it comes to special weapons <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>.<br /> <br /> The icons should stay to they can come in handy when you fail leadership in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>.<br /> <br /> I can see how a 4+ invul is great for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>dp</span> but for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> purposes i would run with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> (but thats just me)<br /> running your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>dp</span>'s behind rhinos and keeping them in cover should give you the 4+<br /> <br /> other then that I like the list =)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 20:55:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1850 Chaos Space Marine List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Stevd927 wrote:</cite>I would keep the melta guns on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span>'s go with both of the same when it comes to special weapons <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>.</div></blockquote>+1 this. Always keep the same special weps in squads, for range and purpose.<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>DaJacke wrote:</cite>Good point. Removing the Icon and adding the EA leaves me 10pts over. Suggestions?</div></blockquote><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(254);'>MBs</span> for the Skull Champ, just in case there's AV14 in their way or a AV13 Dreadnought. Hmm, maybe blades for their rhino, too.<br /> <br /> <font color='orange'>Oops, *over* you said. Losing one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(527);'>KB</span> altogether would be okay, although I run mine 10 strong. </font><img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 21:19:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brothererekose]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, this is a good list.  as has been said, MoTz on princes if you arent using two psychic powers is iffy, I'd rather go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> or S, but that's just me.  Warptime is a good choice. <br /> <br /> With those ten points you can put a combi melta or flamer on a rhino.  always fun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 21:21:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ZephyrRey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can drop points by giving one of the squads Flamer, Flamer instead of double-melta. I'd keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span> though. <br /> <br /> I would run the Princes with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'>MoS</span> and Lash, or with Mark of Nurgle. Lash is a really sick ability that can steal wins from your opponent on occasion, by shoving them off objectives. Works wonders putting your opponent into position to be assaulted too, hit with templates, or blasted with Battle Cannons and Plasma Cannons... all of those things that you're already running. It's less points, too. OR, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> gives him 6 toughness, and he becomes really hard to wound when he's on his way in. Either way it's better than the 4++, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>. <br /> <br /> It's a really nice list, especially for a 1st time player. Best of luck!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 21:26:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, then you need Warptime AND Wind of Chaos. Otherwise there isn't a point of really taking it. Yeah you get a 4++, but if you create a list around them and play them right they shouldn't get shot at too much. Besides that, people are scared s#!&less of them and will do everything they can to shoot them to death.<br /> <br /> The greatest strength of Warptime is when its used in combat (duh, I know), so you have to think of what other qualities you want in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> for it to secceed in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. Thats why Slaanesh and Nurgle marks are usually given to them. Having I6 is if you wanna take out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(67);'>ICs</span>, and T6 is just fun to have. Making units roll 6's to wound makes me laugh everytime (while they cry).<br /> <br /> Everything in the list looks good. I'd just switch the Meltas on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> squad to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>PG</span> since you usually want them to be camping in back. And I'd maybe keep the icon incase you want to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> the Oblits to a pinpoint location you would then have three places to put them, say...if you wanna open up on a tank or say...throw down three flamer templates before your Zerkers charge in. It's not needed, but it could come in handy.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 5 Jul 2011 23:28:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Billie_Joe]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 Chaos Space Marine List</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Daemon Prince, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'>MoS</span>, Wings, Lash, 155 pts <br /> Daemon Prince, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(101);'>MoS</span>, Wings, Lash, 155 pts <br /> <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>, 2x Melta, Rhino, 255pts <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>, 2x Melta, Rhino, 255pts <br /> 5 Plague Marines, 2x Plasma Gun, Rhino, 180pts <br /> 10 Bezerkers, Champ w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(254);'>MB</span>, Icon, Rhino w/ EA, 310pts <br /> <br /> 3 Obliterators, 225pts <br /> Defiler, 150pts <br /> Defiler, 150pts <br /> <br /> Total: 1835pts <br /> <br /> This leaves me with 15 extra points. <br /> Should I add EA to another Rhino? Upgrade a champ bolter/pistol?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jul 2011 01:35:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ add another plague marine]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I thought about that, removing the icon + 15 gives me 20 pts, but the plague marine is 23, where would I get the other 3 pts from?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jul 2011 02:47:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(254);'>MB</span>'s on the zerks <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span> not really needed when your champ is rocking the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Perfect! Thanks everyone <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Jul 2011 03:01:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DaJackel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yea if you got a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>pf</span> dont take melta bombs.  is this list for a tournament or just some game you are getting ready for if you want i can show you my 2k list and you can see what im running if you want a different perspective on things]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ alabamaheretic]]></author>
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