<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Our War."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/54.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Our War. UK armed forces personnel are undertaking in the efforts to secure the future of the Afghan people. Clips of the show are available on BBC iPlayer, but some of the full episodes have been uploaded on youtube if anyone fancies taking a look? I know that iPlayer isn't available outside the UK.

Here is an episode which follows the chaos and confusion which ensues when a Royal Anglian patrol is ambushed in Now Zad. Gripping stuff, but be warned, it's helmet-cam footage, so:

NSFW - Extremely strong language, and scenes which some may find upsetting.


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Great watching.

Hats off to the lads that scout for the IED's, I could not do that for gak.

I think the next episode was about working with Afghan troops and how trust is being strained by insurgents within the Afghan Army.

Missed it though.

So I think i'll be watching that tonight.

:nod

Also, 1.06 in the video for Harrier(?) low fly-over. Jaw. Dropped.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3048998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3048998.page GMT Our War. gruelling stuff no doubt and seeing a Harrier will make me weep for their decomissioning. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049052.page GMT Our War.
Kilkrazy wrote:A very good programme. Thank you for drawing it to our attention.


It's great, isn't it? Just another reminder that, despite occasional grumbles from certain quarters, the BBCs standard of programming is truly without equal. Their factual programming is the best in the world, bar none.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049139.page GMT Our War.
Unfortunately, never saw the others. Will have to find them on iplayer whenever I can find the time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049165.page GMT Our War. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049171.page GMT Our War.
Darkvoidof40k wrote:Saw that little gem when it was first aired. Very moving.

Unfortunately, never saw the others. Will have to find them on iplayer whenever I can find the time.

Full episodes aren't up on iPlayer, sadly. Just clips. I found a couple of episodes on youtube.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049203.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049203.page GMT Our War.
Ahtman wrote:If you liked this, you may also enjoy Restrepo.

Absolutely, 100% recommend Restrepo. Fantastic look at how razor thin the line between trusting the Coalition and backing the insurgency is--and the kinds of individuals that are fighting the wars we have now. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049319.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049319.page GMT Our War. For the peopple that dont have bbc or cant se it any other way. http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Our-War_25919/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3049369.page GMT Our War. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3050795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3050795.page GMT Re:Our War. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3050963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3050963.page GMT Re:Our War.

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Was it just me or was it hard to feel sympathy for the mother in Alb's first post? She seemed focused on saying the military lied to her, even though they hadn't. As her husband pointed out towards the end of the programme.

I found it quite disingenuous of the BBC to show those scenes.

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I remember when Ken Bigley was captured, his family were pissing me off. I was in Baghdad at the time and I phoned my dad and said "dont be fething embarrassing me and act like a gakker if I ever get captured. Just on the telly and go

"I dont want you to worry about rescuing him, he gave me strict instructions to tell you to drop a 2000lb bomb on his heed as long as you get the bastards who took him while your at it!"

Suits me. I cant imagine what its like for a mother to lose a son, but ive seen so many mothers deal with it so stoically and acting so dignified, it annoys me when they piss and whine so incessantly. Im aware that makes me sound somewhat callous, but hey. Whinging squaddies piss me off as well, were not conscripts, we know what we sign up for. I think its childish to behave as if some part of you wasnt prepared for the worst.
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Those Navy chaps a few years back were a joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Iranian_seizure_of_Royal_Navy_personnel

Such great ones as 'They took my i-pod...'

They got a fething goodie bag for their troubles... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052327.page GMT Our War.
Sailors... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052346.page GMT Re:Our War.
Medium of Death wrote:Watched the final 2 last night.

Was it just me or was it hard to feel sympathy for the mother in Alb's first post? She seemed focused on saying the military lied to her, even though they hadn't. As her husband pointed out towards the end of the programme.

I found it quite disingenuous of the BBC to show those scenes.



Her son was killed in the line of duty. Isn't she allowed to be distraught?

To be totally accurate, the military did lie to her, though clearly it was done from ignorance rather than malice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052461.page GMT Re:Our War.
The troops on the frontline mistook some twitching as life.

I didn't say she couldn't be sad. I said it was hard to feel sorry for her as she was essentially lying during the filming of the broadcast.

1 hour and 51 seconds into the programme.

It's also good to see you ignored the most important part of my post.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052507.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052507.page GMT Our War.
They didn't lie. He died instantly. There was an inquest and it was found to be the case.


Because they would never fudge a report to look better! I mean, theres yet to be a single account of that happening . Not that I'm saying that was the case, but the lack of real on site validation makes post act confirmation difficult and invites questions of motive. Someone died, their loved ones are going to be pretty pissed when there are any questions at all as to why or how, regardless of the objective truth.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052565.page GMT Re:Our War.
ShumaGorath wrote:*states the obvious*


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Anyway, good show either way. FWIW I think the mother is in denial as a coping mechanism. In fact, doesn't she refuse to believe that the army officer at her door is genuine? Or am I getting that mixed up with another episode?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052651.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052651.page GMT Re:Our War.
While I commend his compassion, I felt, as a senior officer he should have been able to face reality instead of putting enormous pressure on his troops.

Pvt. Chris Gray suffered wounds to his heart and both lungs.

As for the mum you are correct sir, she doesn't accept the news at first. Believing it a hoax. She was clearly distraught at the time.


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Medium of Death wrote:They didn't lie. He died instantly. There was an inquest and it was found to be the case.

The troops on the frontline mistook some twitching as life.

I didn't say she couldn't be sad. I said it was hard to feel sorry for her as she was essentially lying during the filming of the broadcast.

1 hour and 51 seconds into the programme.

It's also good to see you ignored the most important part of my post.


The most important part of your post seems to be slagging off a mother who gave her son's life in battle.

I'm proud to ignore that kind of post.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052813.page GMT Re:Our War.
Where am I slagging her off?

Oh wait...

Medium of Death wrote: That stupid bint had no right to be sad about her son. What a foul whore she is...


Hang on... that never actually happened.



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Medium of Death wrote:*Apparently needed the obvious stated to him*


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Da Boss wrote:I reckon they should show some discretion and not show grieving mothers on television in that way. Though in fairness I haven't watched the show yet. But I think grief should be private.


Thats how conflicts and deaths get ignored and pushed under the rug.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052890.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052890.page GMT Re:Our War.
Did you even watch the video?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052904.page GMT Re:Our War.
Medium of Death wrote:Shuma, dearest.

Did you even watch the video?


Been chewing through it while posting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052921.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3052921.page GMT Our War.
Very poignant film that shows the most difficult thing a CO can have happen (at least im assuming losing someone under your command is the worst thing, i may be wrong), and to me at least, highlights the rapid transition between being deployed and seeing action (not having practised using a stretcher for example, thats how quick it was), scary stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3053434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3053434.page GMT Our War.
Kanluwen wrote:
Ahtman wrote:If you liked this, you may also enjoy Restrepo.

Absolutely, 100% recommend Restrepo. Fantastic look at how razor thin the line between trusting the Coalition and backing the insurgency is--and the kinds of individuals that are fighting the wars we have now.


If you want to go up the chain of command, read The Gamble and Fiasco.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3054354.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3054354.page GMT Our War.
Quiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3055551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/381814/3055551.page GMT