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Eldrad 210 pts

Autarch w/ wings and fusion gun 100 pts

Troops

2x 5 man pathfinders 230 (115 each) pts

1x 10-man wraithguard w/ spiritseer w/ spear 384 pts

Elites
2x 3 man wraithguard 210 pts (105 each)

Fast attack
3x 5-man swooping hawks w/ exarch w/ sunrifle and all abilities 152pts each

Heavy
3x wraith lords w/ scatter laser and EML 135 pts each

Just an idea i had since i'm going to play eldar again but use an iyanden-ish themed army ( and attempt to have all the models painted in that craftworld's color) So i was wondering what you guys think of the hawk and wraith combo? To me they seem to fulfill what the other doesn't.


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also, i can i get some feedback for the tournament scene and it might do against other armies in that point level]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053182.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053182.page GMT IMO 10 man wraithguard units are useless, they don't move fast enough to get in range for their 12" guns to do anything. For your HQ slot I would consider just 2 doom/guide seers. The autarch with the swooping hawks won't do much and you can save points by dropping eldrad to put in the 2 seers. Since you don't have much anti tank, I would put bright lances on either your wraithlords or your wave serpents( if you decide to add them). I've used pathfinders and they just don't do the job and are heavily overpriced so i would recomend dropping them and adding in 2 x 10 dire avenger squads exarch with twin direpults and bladestorm in preferably wave serpents.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053730.page GMT DA in wave serpent deal. I've played and seen eldar list with warwalkers, DA and fire dragons in WS and i just don't find it fun. and i understand what your getting at with the Wraithguard. I like the ten man group for being a sponge but i see what you mean with the hq's. The main reason why i added the autarch is to get the +1 to reserves for the swooping hawkskyleap.

Now the other thing i want to point out on my list as to why none of the wraiths are taking BL is because the swooping hawks Haywire grenades. And i really do feel that our BL our way overpriced for what they do. ( granted that it's a codex that Came outin '06 i believe).

As to a quick question about the Pathfinders, For objective games, or at least the most that i have played. The objective almost always always is in terrain. which is why i thought pathfinders would be more cost effective and useful as compared to DA's sitting in a WS for claiming (even though i do understand the fact of really good mobility here) I just felt that a 2+ cover save is just to good to pass up PLUS having a full squad that can shoot at other targets and actually has potential to damage light vehicles and glance meduim armor vehicles.

So idk about that part, 2+ cover save or squad in a vehicle.

thanks a lot for your advice tho since the duel seer thing actually has me thinking.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053766.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3053862.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3054273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3054273.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3054465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3054465.page GMT btw.. I have entertained the idea of running yo yo hawks before , but To me it seems your list actually could work if your opponent bunchs up his vechicles or his horde army. Multi charging vechicles or pooping on infantry heads will slow him down for your wraiths to get there. Its a different playstyle and will cause people who play tournys to scratch their heads a lil , and that should give you a slight advantage.. Thumbs up for being orignal]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3056464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3056464.page GMT . I just feel it try something that could work (then again nothing is certain in a game of dice) that isn't with so many vehicles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3057342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/382081/3057342.page GMT