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				<description><![CDATA[ I just made this list and I really like it what do you guys think?<br /> <br /> -Draigo-<br /> -Grand Master- Psychotroke- rad grenades- Falchions<br /> <br /> -Venerable Dread- x2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>- Psybolt ammo<br /> -Venerable Dread- x2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>- Psybolt ammo<br /> <br /> -Paladin squad x5- x3 halberds- deamon hammer- brotherhood banner<br /> -Paladin squad x5- x3 halberds- deamon hammer- brotherhood banner<br /> <br /> -Stormraven- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> heavy bolter- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> assualt cannon- Psybolt ammo- Hurricane bolters(each side)<br /> -Stormraven- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> heavy bolter- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> assualt cannon- Psybolt ammo- Hurricane bolters(each side)<br /> <br /> So the plan is to put Draigo and Grand master in a squad of paladins each. Give the stormravens scouting, move flat out towards the enemy if I get the first turn. If I go second then I will hold them in reserve and outflank them. I am not sure whether or not to keep the dreads in the ravens if I out flank. With 2 grand strategy I most likely will start them on the table to get a round of shooting and move them towards an objective. Using Pschotroke and rad grenades will make grand masters paladins epic in combat, while draigo will make his awesome too but not as good as the other. <br /> What do you guys think? There is 16 models in this army so it has a great conversion flow for me =D]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ blasto0341]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ solid but i probaly wouldn't recommend outflanking those ravens unless you put the dreads in its grapples<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> and you may wanna through in a apothacary too....at least in draigo's squad<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:34:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ChaosFanatic#1]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2,000 Grand master GK list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you're running a dual storm raven list I say that you mount up your dreads in them as well. Got all your eggs in two baskets anyway. Don't feed anyone your army piecemeal. Kit out your dreads for up front combat duty and drop em in. You'll have two big beatsticks that will need to get into combat quickly. You should also consider making the second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(524);'>GM</span> a librarian. Shrouding will give your storm ravens a 3+ cover save, which can be the difference between paladins in combat and paladins walking across the field. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:10:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gpfunk]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only problem I see is in 2000 points you only have 16 models and very few targets. Think about what you'll be facing as well as what you need to accomplish.<br /> <br /> For one at 2000 points you are going to face a LOT of AP2 weapons - making your paladins' armor next to useless. The gunships I love but anyone with spam AP8 shooting will take them down and if it's immobilized that spells really bad doom for the guys inside. <br /> <br /> Not sure what you plan to use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(524);'>GM</span> for - that is - what abilities you plan to assign, but it seems like the points could be better spent on another scoring unit. Right now you have only 2 Scoring units. That means in an objective game it's very unlikely you will hold any uncontested objectives and, at the same turn, your ability to contest an objective will be.. well... none. <br /> <br /> I play both Grey Knights and Orks. At 2000 points from Orks you can expect something like:<br /> <br /> 2 Big Meks w/ Kustom Forcefields.<br /> <br /> 15 Lootas (3 groups of 2) (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 7 D3 shots each - spam spam spam. With mathhammer that's shaken every turn and a 1 in 4 chance of immobilization even when you move all-out.<br /> <br /> 60 Shoota boys (2 mobs of 30 plus nob with power klaw in each)<br /> <br /> 60 Slugga Boys (2 mobs of 30 plus nob with power klaw in each)<br /> <br /> 3 or so deffkoptas w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits <br /> <br /> 9 Killa Kan, 6 with Rokkits (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 3 and BS3), 3 with Grotzookas<br /> <br /> Maybe 2 Deff Dreads with 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> if I can manage it, and if memory serves me I'll be able to.<br /> <br /> There is NO way your 16 models will be able to put a dent in that army. You may be able to destroy a few of the Kans, who will all have a 4+ cover save, with the stormravens but eventually one of the 4 30 wound power klaws will be in melee and then it's game over.<br /> <br /> That's just food for thought. I just think you're critically low on models to be competitive. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:44:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 2000 Volts]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You cannot give the Stormravens scouting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:47:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deadshane1]]></author>
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