http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net
HQ
Company Command Squad w/Colonel Iron Hand Straken, 3 melta guns, medic, carapace armor, officer of the fleet, and 2 bodyguards w/chimera-340

Ministorum Priest w/eviscerator-60

Elites
10 Man Psyker Battle Squad w/chimera-165

Marbo-65

Troops
Vet. Squad w/3 melta guns and autocannon w/chimera-165

Vet. Squad w/3 melta guns and autocannon w/chimera-165

Vet. Squad w/3 plasma guns and autocannon w/chimera-180

Vet. Squad w/3 plasma guns and autocannon w/chimera-180

Fast Attack
Vendetta-130

3x Armored Sentinels w/3 autocannons and 2x Hunter-Killers-200

Heavy Support
2x Leman Russes w/Executioner w/sponson plasma cannons and battle tank w/lascannon and sponson bolters-415

2x Medusas-270

Manticore-160

C&C Welcome!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3087075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3087075.page GMT CCS is horrifically overpriced. Drop the bodyguards, medic and carapace as they are in a chimera. Not sure if Straken worth the cost in a mech list.

Don't take Heavy weapons in chimeras - you want the chimeras to move every turn so they are not vulnerable to CC.

No real need for a priest in the list.

Single vendetta will stand out like a sore thumb - run 2 or nor at all.

Hunter killer missiles at BS3 are not worth the cost.

Medusa? Basic version only has 36" range - don't fancy their chances of surviving personally.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3087482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3087482.page GMT
You don't need heavy weaps on the Vet squads as if you move they cannot fire and you need to move to get the meltas into range.

Vendettas always come in pairs like any other vehicle.

Sentinels are ok but hunter killers are rubbish. I'd only take these is any points are left.

Leman Russ team is just too expensive. That will be 5 plasma blasts, a large S8 blast and lascannon firing at a single unit! Plus all that is mostly anti infantry and light armour so you do not need the lascannon. I'd personally take two Executioners naked.

Two Manticores for the win they can tackle vehicles just as good as Medusas ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3088410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3088410.page GMT str 6 power fist.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3089828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3089828.page GMT CCS down to just about naked then just buy some plasma guns or melta guns for them.

I dont see why so many people want to put ACs in their vet squads that are in a chimera loaded with melta guns, just doenst make sense. The vets are there to rush with the meltas not sit with an AC. To sit there would be wasting the vets.

HK missles are a joke, took me forever to figure that out lol. But now that I know they are not great I pretty much never run with them, like a previous poster has said, "Only buy HKs if you have extra points".

Why bring the preist? your running a mech list, stick to mech dont try and diversify it.

PBS I hear are good, I've never run them personally, but I've heard great things about putting them in Chimeras.

one vendetta and is just gonna get killed after one turn of shooting, pretty much garunteed.

I prefer to run scout sents becuase you get to come in off the sides which opens up alot better shots. Armored sents just arnt as effective as scouts.

I'd split the LRBTs up better to have 2 seperate than 1 squad IMO.

Id also drop the medusas for manticores. Manticores are so OP its rediculous, lol.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090041.page GMT
consider basic infantry squads, in a chimera w/ heavy bolter with an autocannon, they are very shooty stationary weapons (2X S7 3Xs6 3Xs5 shots per turn platforms that are rather cheap and will let your melta vets do what they do best which is tool around and melta stuff.

priest is kind of wasteful, with an evicerator he really doesn't do much unless you have a flood of bodies to put him with.

why armored sents? most people just user unarmored ones unless they are taking plasma cannons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090102.page GMT
HQ
CCS (4x melta, Officer of Fleet) - 120
CCS (4x melta) - 90

Cheaper, just as effective. Only reason to take carapace or medic is if you are maxing out plasma guns, and even then it aint worth it. Straken is only worth it for huge blobs, and even then, not really. Treat this as an extra cheap vet squad without the bodies.

Elites
10x PBS - 165
-chimera

Marbo - 65

I like these guys, the the PBS are so good at screwing over certain builds (read: any non-fearless deathstar) and Marbo is a sneaky git who is always worth the points just for scare value.

Troops
Vet squad (3x MG) - 155
-Chimera
Vet squad (3x MG) - 155
-Chimera
Vet squad (3x MG) - 155
-Chimera
Vet squad (3x MG) - 155
-Chimera
Vet squad (3x Plasma) - 170
-Chimera
Vet squad (3x Plasma) - 170
-Chimera

Melta for the melta gods, plasma for the plasma throne. All at BS 4 and moving at top speed all game.

Fast Attack
Vendetta - 130
Vendetta - 130

Armored sentinels die just like normal ones, and can't scout to boot. The CCS's go in these, for suicide melta goodness. Keep them separate for flexibility or put them together to ignore stun (and die to immobilized).

Heavy Support
-2x LR MBT (3x HB) - 340
-2x LR MBT (3x HB) - 340
-Manticore -160

This is the section where you absolutely overload your enemy's AT capabilities, but much more cheaply than you did before. This is your crowd control, and the Russ allow you to anchor the flanks of your armor wall with something a little more solid than AV 10. You might also consider demolishers, Str 10 AP2 is ever so nice against paladins or thunderwolves, although the shorter range and slow speed mean they have a harder time against more mobile enemies. Also, you had the points all wrong for the executioner: with PC sponsons each one is 230 pts, putting that unit of 3 to a total of 625 points.

So yeah, streamlined and optimized, extraneous choices thrown out, more shooty, boomy goodness thrown in. Plus more scoring units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3090619.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3092211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3092211.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3092960.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3092960.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3093753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/383911/3093753.page GMT