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				<description><![CDATA[ I have a curious request. If you care whatsoever, keep reading. If you have better things to do, see my reply below (post number three).<br /> <br /> I have twenty space marines with bolters. Three more that can count as Sergeants, two with meltas, one with a flamer, and a fourth with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>. The fifth also has a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, but I can't exchange his weapon or the guy with the flamer (swine <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AoBR</span>).<br /> <br /> I have an extra model to make a commander.<br /> I also have some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> vets that would be convincing scouts. <br /> I also have a dozen or so terminators with varying loadouts I could change with relative ease.<br /> I also have many bitz to work with for converting/making my own heavy weapons.<br /> <br /> I am not going to buy any new vehicles or troops. <br /> <br /> I'd like to use Vulcan because he seems pretty hard to kill and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TLs</span> melta and flames. However, these guys are going to be footslogging (no possible way to change that). And meltas/flames are short range schtuff. <br /> <br /> Which leads me to Kantor. He makes Sternguard scoring (whee small model count!) and I love his stormbolter. But mainly the sternguard thing.<br /> <br /> If neither of those will work, I will resort to Belial and turn my termies into troops and use an out of date codex I can't find the online PDF for. <br /> <br /> Looking at 750-1000 points here. What are my options? I know I'm asking a lot, etc etc Thanks for the help either way. <br /> <br /> Rico..]]></description>
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				<title>x points SM</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In an effort to be slightly less useless, I've thought of two and a half lists.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Pedro<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 185<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 185<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> x5 Stern: 135<br /> Plascannon<br /> <br /> x8 Term: 320<br /> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> _____LIST TWO_____<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Pedro<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 195<br /> Las<br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 195<br /> Las<br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> x5 Stern: 155<br /> x2 Las<br /> <br /> x7 Term: 280<br /> x3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span><br /> <br /> General strategy for both is to combat squad the Tacs, moving the four new squads around. Sarge has the beacon so he'll head to the armor or biggest thing I can find and call in the terms. Stern sit on home objective if there is one but otherwise take a supporting role. <br /> <br /> Yet another list..<br /> Vulkan<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 185<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>: 185<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> Flamer<br /> Beacon<br /> <br /> And that's the ball game. Stuck. Should I go with a thunderfire? Big weakness is armor at range. Or, well, anything at range. Beyond 24" I can't touch. I'll work on a list with Belial at the head while I catch up on Spartacus.<br /> <br /> Rico..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:19:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rico]]></author>
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				<title>1000 points SM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I hate to be "that guy", but you really need some transports. :(]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:20:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>wtwlf123 wrote:</cite>I hate to be "that guy", but you really need some transports. :(</div></blockquote><br /> Not a problem. I hate to be "that guy" and tell you to reread my original post that says I'm not buying anything more, be it vehicles or otherwise, and that this would be a footslogging list, but I stated that multiple times. <br /> <br /> I'm looking for ways to make the best damn list with the models I have. If it means I get bent over every game, fine. Cool. Whatever. I like modeling more than anything else this hobby has to begin with, and I'm of the mind that revels in the number of people taken down with me such that a loss means little after the handshake. <br /> <br /> Moving on, for reiterating purposes, this is a footslogging list. I'd love to slap three or four Razorbacks and a Landraider into the list. But I can't. So they will walk across no man's land. <br /> <br /> Rico.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:32:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rico]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000 points SM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Would missile launchers be a better choice for the Pedro list? I  might be able to squeeze in an extra term if I have missile launchers on the tacs and Stern. It'll be harder to kill tanks but I figure I'd be better able to deal with hordes..<br /> <br /> Also, here's a Belial list. And a Calgar list. What are everyone's thoughts on these various commanders/lists? I can swing all of them, it really comes down to people's experiences with the commanders and what may be wrong with the list.. Two Pedro lists are above ^<br /> <br /> Belial<br /> -130<br /> <br /> x5 Term<br /> AssCan<br /> Varied <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> weps<br /> Narth<br /> -275<br /> <br /> x5 Term<br /> Cyclone<br /> -235<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span><br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> -180<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span><br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> -180<br /> ------------<br /> Calgar<br /> Antilochus<br /> -265<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span><br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> -170<br /> <br /> x10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span><br /> Flamer<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> -170<br /> <br /> x5 Scout<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> SR (Sarge)<br /> -85<br /> <br /> x5 Scout<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span><br /> SR (Sarge)<br /> -85<br /> <br /> x5 Scout<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span><br /> SR (Sarge)<br /> -85<br /> <br /> x5 Scout<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> <br /> SR (Sarge)<br /> -85<br /> <br /> I have 55 points left over. Thinking about spending them on Telion..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:25:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rico]]></author>
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				<title>1000 points Pedro/Belial/Calgar now..</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't like it but the only list that effectively sound at least logic for a footslogging marines wave is the last one.<br /> <br /> If you want to make sloggers you'll need numbers.<br /> <br /> Have you considred Shrike as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>? he will give Fleet to everybody and you'll love to run in a footslogging army.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Shrike. 195<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>EL</span> - 5x Assault Terminators - 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> - 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>. 200<br /> TR - 10x Scouts - Serg. w/combi-melta - 9x Bolters. 150<br /> TR - 10x Scouts - Serg. w/combi-melta - 9x Bolters. 150<br /> TR - 10x Scouts - Serg. w/combi-melta - 9x Bolters. 150<br /> TR - 10x Scouts - Serg. w/combi-melta + Meltabombs - 9x Bolters. 155<br /> Tot. 1000<br /> <br /> Everything will infiltrate, Terminators included if joined by Shrike.<br /> <br /> Another idea could be use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> codex:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Coteaz. 100<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Librarian - Sanctuary - The Shrouding. 160<br /> TR - 5x Strikers - Psycannon - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Hammer. 125<br /> TR - 5x Strikers - Psycannon - Hammer. 120<br /> TR - 5x Strikers - Psycannon - Hammer. 120<br /> TR - 8x Psykers - 3x Crusaders. 125<br /> TR - 8x Psykers - 3x Crusaders. 125<br /> TR - 8x Psykers - 3x Crusaders. 125<br /> Tot. 1000<br /> <br /> Isn't easy to build hordes lists at 1000 points you know?]]></description>
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				<title>1000 points Pedro/Belial/Calgar now..</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ the shrike scout list looks the best for footslogging if thats the way you want to go <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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