<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback
I have a tournament coming and I want your advise on my list.
So, here is my list:

HQ

Rune Priest (100pts)
Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane, Power Armour, Runic Weapon

Elites

Lone Wolf (95pts)
Fenrisian Wolf, Storm Shield, Terminator Armour, Thunder Hammer

Wolf Guard Pack (235pts)
5 Wolf Guard
3 w/ Combi Melta, Power fist, 1 w/ combi Plasma, Power Fist
1 w/ Cyclone, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter, Terminator Armour

Wolf Scouts (85pts)
5x Wolf Scout
Meltagun

Troops

2x Grey Hunters Pack (170pts)
7x Grey Hunter, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagun, Wolf Standard + Rhino

Grey Hunters Pack (175pts)
7x Grey Hunter, Mark of the Wulfen, Plasma Gun, Wolf Standard + Rhino

Grey Hunters Pack (120pts)
5x Grey Hunter, Meltagun + Razorback w/ Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

Fast Attack

2x Land Speeder (100pts)
Multi-melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support

2x Long Fangs Pack (140pts)
6x Long Fang, 5 Missiles

Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

Total: 1750

Instead of the Lone Wolf and the lascannons on Predator, I could take Rifleman Dreadnought.
Or lose the LW, Predator and the cyclone terminator and take a Wolf Lord w/ Thunderwolf, TH, SS, Beastslayer and 5 Fenrisian Wolves to go with him.

What do you think is the best choice? Or is the whole list full of fail?

And no, I will not take more Razorbacks. Because, I don't have more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3102864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3102864.page GMT Re:Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback
Rune Priest (100pts)
Living Lightning, Murderous Hurricane, Power Armour, Runic Weapon


Your HQ Choice is fine, fairly standard in competitive games, some people like to take jaws of the world wolf in place of living lightning or murderous hurricane but this all depends on game type

Lone Wolf (95pts)
Fenrisian Wolf, Storm Shield, Terminator Armour, Thunder Hammer

Wolf Guard Pack (235pts)
5 Wolf Guard
3 w/ Combi Melta, Power fist, 1 w/ combi Plasma, Power Fist
1 w/ Cyclone, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter, Terminator Armour

Wolf Scouts (85pts)
5x Wolf Scout
Meltagun


I'm guessing your attaching each wolf guard to a Grey Hunter Squad and the one with the cyclone to the lone wolves? thats a good choice, the cyclone gives you 2 extra rocket shots a turn which only helps break enemy tanks, the lone wolf is actually one of my favorite Elite choices, i usually run him with 2 fenrisian wolves, a Chain fist and a storm shield. The wolves will help absorb wounds and the chain fist will help take down tanks. remember, you want to get him killed. I dont personally use wolf scouts but a lot of people seem to be so i guess i should check them out.

2x Grey Hunters Pack (170pts)
7x Grey Hunter, Mark of the Wulfen, Meltagun, Wolf Standard + Rhino

Grey Hunters Pack (175pts)
7x Grey Hunter, Mark of the Wulfen, Plasma Gun, Wolf Standard + Rhino

Grey Hunters Pack (120pts)
5x Grey Hunter, Meltagun + Razorback w/ Twin-linked Heavy Bolter


I'd Drop the plasma in the 3rd squad for the fact that you have a 1/6 chance of killing yourself, not worth it in my opinion, your better off taking another meltagun. The razorback in a list like this isnt going to work to well in my opinion, i'd say drop that squad and something else and take another grey hunter squad in a rhino, and throw some upgrades on the 4th wolf guard. But if you feel that you must run a razor back switch the heavy bolter to a twin linked las, or a las with TL Plasma.

2x Land Speeder (100pts)
Multi-melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher


These are fine, the only thing i can think of is to take another multimelta instead of the typhoon

2x Long Fangs Pack (140pts)
6x Long Fang, 5 Missiles

Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons


The long Fangs are fine. for the predator i actually prefer the dakka pred with heavy bolters on the sides, its cheaper and its more helpful since your shooting 2 str 7 and 6 str 5 shots a turn, if math serves your killing at least 4 enemy models a turn (math might be terrible there) it also helps clear up 20 points

sorry for the long post, hope this helps]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103055.page GMT Re:Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback And speaking of the plasma squad, I have found out that this list doesnt need another melta as much it needs some Ap2 shots. And fighting Avatar regulary may have something to do with it.
The cyclone terminator joins one of the Long Fang squad or goes by himself. I wish he could join the LW.

The reason behind the Razorback squad is holding my own objective. And for that you only need to be scoring unit. And cheap. And for 5 points I can get twin linked h.bolter for them, so why not.

Im with you on the lascannons on Predator. Not too fond about it. And it actually cost 35 points more than the h.bolters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103545.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback
Don't add a Rifleman Dread unless you can add a pair of them. Single Dreadnoughts get blown up by stray missiles most of the time, but a pair requires an actual investment of resources for your opponent to deal with. It's primarily a psychological thing, but I've seen it hold true many many times. Another option for the same points would be a pair of PC/HF Dreadnoughts, which fill the same role as the Lone Wolves but with some added ranged potential and durability against units that lack Power Fists.

Other than the odd single items, it's a pretty solid list, so thee isn't a whole lot that needs adjustment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103597.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback
As for the Plasma Gun, don't Fear it, I run 3x full 10 man Packs with two and generaly loos 1-3 a game, but I usaly kill 10-20 Models a Game. To me that is worth the risk.

The Scouts look..ok, I would sugest adding a MoTW to carry the Melta Gun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103650.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback MC's, Dreadnoughts and Tanks, and will hold up in combat against most heavy hitters, but is inefficient against infantry.

What Anpu42 suggests is a more cheap and cheerful anti-infantry build and usually features Mark of the Wulfen and a pair of Fenrisian Wolves to see that he makes it into combat. That build will overwhelm infantry with rending attacks and will either win combat by sheer force or will die in the process, hopefully taking some enemy models with him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103701.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback >Power Armor
>Close Combat Weapon
>Storm Shield
>MotW
If I got the Points
>Add 2 Wolves
>Melta Bombs

These usaly kill between 1-3 Suqads a Game each before takn down.
I have had bad luck with Vehicles with them, so I genraly keep clear of them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103727.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103727.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103924.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3103924.page GMT Re:Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback

I usually pair my Rifleman with my Predator to keep them alive. The Dread can hide behind the Pred for a cover save or cover the Preds weaker side armour.
I have used the LW only a few times before so your advises are really helpfull.
The Scouts are one of my favorite units in the fluff and my collection, so they are really hard to let go. I usually give them MotW, but I had to get the points for something else.

Any ideas on what to take instead of the cyclone? Dont have a third Speeder, so thats out. Or more Razors.

What about the Thunderlord? Worth the points? Or find some more for the Bear?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3104092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3104092.page GMT Space Wolves 1750pts Tournament list in need of some feedback http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3104473.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/384730/3104473.page GMT