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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o
Big Mek-kff and cybork
Warboss-squig,pk,cybork,bike

Loota(5)
Loota(5)
Kommandos(10)snikrot and 2 burna

Gretchin(10)runtherd
shoota boyz (20)nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits
battle wagon-riggers,bs,deffrolla
shoota boyz (19)nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits
battle wagon-riggers,bs,deffrolla
shoota boyz (20)nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits
battle wagon-riggers,bs,deffrolla
Nob Bikers(8)banner,painboy,pole,pk,4 big choppa,2 runts,4 kombi rokkits

Stormboyz(20)zagstruck
Deffkopta-TL rokkits
Deffkopta-TL rokkits

Gretin to hold ojectives, big mek in with boyz, only 1 1 pk in nobz becasue of warboss with them.
thanks for help

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I don't know about DeffKoptas with buzzsaws either it is going to be my first time useing them as well..I am hopeing they are worth there points and KP's. We will see I guess]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3130575.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3130575.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o
a.) potentially crippling, or at least very advantageous alpha strike potential (scout 24", move 12", assault 6" on a vehicle that has not yet moved on your first turn - or maybe a pack of longfangs)
b.) potentially crippling, possibly advantageous outflank potential (contest late game objectives/blow up enemy armor, etc)
c.) 70 point distraction for your opponent if you zip them around with a 3+ cover save and soak up fire, if there are no potential targets for it.
d.) If you run them as a unit, attach a Boss Biker to them for some extra killyness and fortitude.

Moral of the story? Deffkoptas have got some potential for 70 points

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Battlewagon w/ Red Paint Job, Waaagh! called...

13" Movement from BW, 2" disembark, 1-6" Fleet of Foot from Waaagh!, and 6" assault. Total= 22-27" range.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3130835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3130835.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3131950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3131950.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3131997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3131997.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o Is having a koptor that much better?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132478.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132478.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132597.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132597.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o
The reason i say use boarding planks, you can slam your deffrolla into a transport. if that doesnt pop it, boarding plank it with a nob with pk inside. next turn hop out and assualt the unit. orks are sweet on the assault, bad if they get assualted. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132610.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o lol sry for confusion

zagstruck allows stormboyz to deepstrike but take d3 in wounds

Kalzuk: I would love to run 15 kommandos but alas I only have 10

I don't like boarding planks think they are a waste, was only wondering about the assaulting just incase I have to but not planing on it

besides koptas what do you all think about the rest of list, should I add another squad of greatin or maybe cut a wagon to get a suad of 30 boyz.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132750.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132771.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o

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should I cut 1 bw and turn it into 2 trukks and boyz in them?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132873.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3132873.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135707.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o DT.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135764.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135764.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135805.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3135876.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136138.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136138.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o don t care about infiltrate or outflank

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pretre wrote:Keep in mind that Kommandos will not be able to outflank in 2 of 3 missions the way that things currently stand.

you are right they can't outflank but they can ambush which is way better

I like the stormboyz. on turn 2 you can possibly have snikrot coming from behind and the stormboyz assaulting. this can really put a dent in the space wolf long fang garbage or the guard gun line.

i am going to go full horde in my hard boyz list as everybody will be loading up on tank killing guns. 250 orks for the win]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136269.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o DE raiders, ork trukks, and rhino/razorbacks (chimeras are a bit harder) that WILL be seen. If you're gonna drop the deffcoptas take rokkit buggies, you can get 2 for just a few points more (MOAR DAKKA!).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136599.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136599.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136635.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o

pretre wrote:Doesn't ambush use the outflank rules with choice of board edge?

no

" if snikrot is put into reserve he may come in on any table edge."

no mention of outflank the joys of a 4th edition codex]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136698.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3136845.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o so here it is once more:

Big Mek - kff,cybork - 95
Warboss - squig,pk,cybork,bike - 150

Lootas(5) - 75
Lootas(5) - 75
Kommandos (10) - snikrot,2 burna - 215

Gretin(10)runtherd - 40
Shoota Boyz(20) - nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits - 180
Shoota Boyz(20) - nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits - 180
Shoota Boyz(19) - nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits - 174
Nob Biker Squad - 503 (all have cybork al well)
nob biker - painboy
nob biker - waagh banner
nob biker - pole
nob biker - pk
nob biker - bc
nob biker - kombi rokkit
nob biker - bc,kombi rokkit
nob biker - runt,kombi rokkit

Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70
Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70
Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70

Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135
Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135
Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135

comes to 2302, I was thinking about if I should add trukk boyz or 2 more nob bikers thoughts

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Plus, your nob bikers are already pretty buff. Putting more points there is just more eggs in one basket. You're two leadership checks away from losing 600+ points of your army in one round.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3142900.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3142900.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o I was thinking with thinking that with xtra points but rpj on wagons and a burna for mek and some orderlies for pain boy and oilers for mek (just in case

)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3143300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3143300.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o kff,cybork,burna - 115
Warboss - squig,pk,cybork,bike - 150

Lootas(5) - 75
Lootas(5) - 75
Kommandos (10) - snikrot,2 burna - 215

Shoota Boyz(12) - nob,pk,pole,rokkit, trukk(ram) - 162
Gretin(10)runtherd - 40
Shoota Boyz(20) - nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits - 180
Shoota Boyz(20) - nob,pk,pole,2 rokkits - 180
Shoota Boyz(19) - nob,pk,pole,1 rokkits - 174
Nob Biker Squad - 503 (all have cybork al well)
nob biker - painboy,3 orderly
nob biker - waagh banner
nob biker - pole
nob biker - pk
nob biker - bc
nob biker - kombi rokkit
nob biker - bc,kombi rokkit
nob biker - runt,kombi rokkit

Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70
Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70
Kopta - rokkits,saw - 70

Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135
Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135
Battlewagon - rolla,kannon,rigger,plates - 135

Todal:2500

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you can also attach him to the kommandos for ambush shenanigans. Ghaz is that good, find a way to run him. thats my 2c.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152312.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o HQ but seems to more of a footslugger base army, shoota are better unit then slugga 18 in with 2 shoots is sweet trust me, i have found slugga are better in trukks. I would have put bs on wagons but had 15 pts left and thought well y not but a 36in rookkit on them to use up points. I have never had good luck with boarding planks just not able to get good use from them, rather use koptas to take out vechiles

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152415.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152415.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152468.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152468.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152604.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152604.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o 3d6 take the highest for his SnP roll. Not really that slow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152842.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o atm, I think I would have to redo it and I think this looks pretty good atm]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3152925.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o HQ choice in every Ork army except Kan Wall or Bikers

Mech/footslog...don't care. He's just that good.

But use what you feel works for you. I started using Ghazzy and never looked back. Hes 75 points more than your current choice, which may be difficult to cut corners but I would definitely try. Just my opinion. I'd easily lose a Kopta and another 5 points in a heartbeat to fit Ghazzy. Getting Ghaz alone is enough for me to not have to rely on bosspoles in my units even. That's a ton of points saved right there just by taking him. I can seriously write walls and walls of text praising this guy lol.

Anyway...good luck with whatever you go with.

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I would also change out the warboss for a Ghaz. That guaranteed 6 inches in the shooting phase is nothing to sneeze at, and the +2 invul through your and your opponent's turn can really make a good tarpit.

Wanna be a complete nutbag? Attach Ghaz to the Kommando squad....Snikrot in your backline is one thing, Ghaz in there will make people soil themselves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3153453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3153453.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o atm so not sure when I will get new ghaz model. Dose anyone have the new resin plastic models? how are they to make and paint?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3153745.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3153745.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o
6 bikers, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP= 190 points

They can run independent of the KFF while retaining their cover save.

12 boyz with a Nob PK/BP upgrade and a Trukk w/RR is 152 points.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3155502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3155502.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o KFF Mek, another squad of Nobs in a BW, 3 squads of choppa slugga boys and 3 BW. Throw in 2 squads of Lootas, one headed by a Mek with SAG and Bosspole. Then have Snikrot with 14 Kommandos (2 with burnas for PW melee). Fit the BWs with Deff Rollas, Boarding Planks, Armor, and 1 Big Shoota. The Boarding planks are almost a necessity agins groups like DE were if you try to tank shock them with wagons, they just move out of the way. No running from 3 S9 hits from that Nob. The key to Orks is being able to throw out lots of attacks, and get kills based on odds. Melee Orks do this best because the numbers they need are much lower than their shooting ones are, and PKs only allow invul saves. The Shokk Attack gun is an underestimated means of mass destruction for the Orks. This list will be tough (5 BWs full of Nobs and Boys, most with 4+ saves from the KFF, Snikrot just waiting to come in from a table edge which A) forces your opponent (if hes smart) to keep his stuff away from table edges (at least 13 inches) and B) when they come in, they can at minimum tangle up your opponents support units. With all your opponents stuff in the middle or super spread out, you can now begin to swarm your opponent. The Lootas and SAG both have awesome range, so nothing can really hide from them. Also SAG prevents cover saves from things trying to hide from you (IE Plaguebearers of Nurgle, which on a good roll denies them their bread and butter FNP) and can pop transports and speeders with little effort. When I build an Ork army list, i try to have 2 PKs per 500 points as i feel this is needed to stay competitive. They can pop most vehicles, even Land Raiders when charging, and as stated before, deny non invul saves. Hope this lil tid bit helps. WAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3156825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3156825.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o bs on bw but had 15 pt xtra so thought well how about it, same stats and rokkit and makes wagons another tempting target

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3160925.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3160925.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161243.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161243.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161341.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o hq choice, but he is not going to do nearly as much for you as your biker boss will. Consider this scenario: the nobs go flat out turn one to get their 3+ cover save putting themselves within range of every gun your opponent has to shoot at them. Your opponent throws templates, massed infantry fire, heavy weapons nd anything else they can at your nobs. When the dust clears, you've lost three guys by a combination of bad rolling and sheer number of wounds dealt to you, forcing a ld test. You take the test and roll a 10. No problem, your bosspole will give you a reroll. This time you roll an 8. Thanks to nobz unusually low ld, you fail and flee a full 3d6. Now as your turn comes up you must test again to see if you run further or turn around and get back in the fight. No matter which, you've just had a huge part of your army put out of comission for at least one turn. Now consider you'd taken the boss instead. They still would have failed their first test, but they would have passed the second and gone on in your following turn to cause huge losses to your opponent wherever you decded to use them (much better than sitting around near your deployment zone doing nothing) ghaz is great, but there are often better choices for different armies and generals style of play.

2 units of 5 lootas are a point sink and not going to help you at all. They'll run if they lose two from shooting (which if they're not in cover, they will the first turn they're shot at) and there aren't enough of them to be a serious threat. 1 unit of 10 is better, but a full unit of 15 is best.

The koptas are a point sink as well. 3 killpouints that are as fragile as they are aren't going to make back their points most of the time. Plus, 3 strength 7 power klaw attacks is certainly nothing to write home about if your target has moved at all. Dropping one or two of them would make room for far more warbuggies that will do probably as much and are much more survivable. Plus if you want an annoyance factor, koptas with rokkits are normally more than enough to get your opponent flustered.

Boardin planks don't sound like much, but after getting charged by a furioso dreadnought that missed every attack against me and then proceeding to immobilize him and knock one of his arms off with my Nob without ever leaving the comfort of my own wagon, I swear by them. Plus they're awesome against any mech as if your deffrolla doesn't get the job done, your pk will give you a second chance which against lower armor should finish the job against most things. Plus they're a must have against skimmers for reasons previously mentioned. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161564.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o

jbuzzsaw wrote:the 2 shoots you can take with a shoota before you charge makes them better then slugga, at least what I think.

That depends. If they're both shooting and then charging in the same turn, they have the same number of attacks.

Shootas: 2 shots in shooting phase, 3 attacks in close combat = 5 attacks total.

Choppas: 1 shot in shooting phase, 4 attacks in close combat = 5 attacks total.

Except the Shootas are taking one of their attacks at BS2 instead of WS4 in combat, so they're less likely to tally up the same number of wounds.

Shootas are better if you're going to spend multiple turns shooting at the same squad before charging, but if you're planning on running until you get into combat, or you're being delivered by a vehicle into assault range, Slugga/Choppa boyz are preferable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161634.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161634.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o atm, I had them in one uniot but was told by several people this was a bad idea]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161704.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o
I'd also rather have 2 squads of 5 Lootas than 1 squad of 10, unless I need the other elites slot. You don't lose all the models to a single LD test, you don't lose the ability to shoot all 10 if one squad gets wrapped up in CC, you can divide your fire against multiple targets, and it makes it harder for your opponent to position their units to be screened from your Lootas. I usually run 2 squads of 5 or 2 squads of 9. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161712.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3161788.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3162164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3162164.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3162422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3162422.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3165097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3165097.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o rpj kinda a waste of points in my opinion, as for more boyz it would be nice but trying to get there in a few turns means I need transporteres and not sure what you would ahve me cut to do this]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3174979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3174979.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o

jbuzzsaw wrote:My thought on the stormboyz was deep stirkeing more worth it then kopta, is this not true? even if I take 3 casuatlies inroll for deep strike, zagstruck has int 4 and 5 attacks on charge. Other boyz it would be at worse 16 boyz with int 3 and 4 attacks (one more for pitol and sword) for a todal of 64 attacks!

Is having a koptor that much better?

It's over 300 points for 21 models, up to 3 of which might outright die the turn they arrive, they have the EXACT same statline as a normal ork boy, and they are led by a sergeant who frankly is rubbish except for the round he charges.

I've played my share of stormboyz, and they're practically never worth their points, and Zagstrukk is actually an overpriced downgrade from a normal Nob, in my experience. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3175646.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3175646.page GMT 2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o Btw why not combine the 2 squads of lootaz it's better than two squads plus you need the elite choice for the nobs. They aren't fast attack]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3176655.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/385985/3176655.page GMT Re:2500 orks Ard Boyz v3.o lol

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