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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156086.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) CG! My one weakness! GAH!

*Chowder fall over dead from looking at that, and realizing they are going Spiderman 3 with him*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156304.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156304.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156399.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

Chowderhead wrote:Bad CG! My one weakness! GAH!

*Chowder fall over dead from looking at that, and realizing they are going Spiderman 3 with him*

*Pillages his wallet*

Broken pic for me :/

....Meh, I seriously do not like his hair, The suit doesn't look good (could be the light, though), but other than that, I suppose I'm open to it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156456.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156456.page GMT Re:First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156477.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156477.page GMT Re:First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

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There ya go.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156521.page GMT Re:First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156558.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
Plus General Zod!

The last Superman movie didn't have the entertaining blockbuster action sequences you'd expect from the Man of Steel. It also failed to make you really care about the characters and what was going on. Hopefully Nolan can turn things around like he did for Batman!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156561.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156561.page GMT Re:First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156580.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156589.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

Flashman wrote:Nolan is only producing. Zack Snyder is directing.

IIRC he's also one of the writers on board too. But damn he's not directing :( At least Snyder has a a couple of good titles to his name]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156625.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
It's not exactly his fault that Brian Singer wanted to make an homage to the Donner films.

/Actually enjoyed Superman Returns, though I do agree with a lot of the gripes about it.

//Superman movies need super-level villains, not real-estate scams.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156646.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156646.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

Jin wrote:Hrm. I still think Brandon Routh should've been given another chance.

It's not exactly his fault that Brian Singer wanted to make an homage to the Donner films.

/Actually enjoyed Superman Returns, though I do agree with a lot of the gripes about it.

//Superman movies need super-level villains, not real-estate scams.

Couldnt agree with this more. What a HUGE waste of a Superman movie. Use your laser beams to burn their........erm...ok then how bout.... spray IE from your mouth to vanquish....their...... alright then SUPER HUMAR STREn.....gth........... well..... you know how to dial 911 right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156659.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3156659.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) Superman Returns was indeed Singer, I think it's best to bury that sucker for eternity, cast and all.

I'm fine with the costume. It looks like the red underwear *may* be gone. I'm hoping so, at least. The new costume in the comic books will drop it too.

I trust Nolan, but distrust Snyder. So it should be interesting to see how this goes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157005.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
Superpowers? Check
Superbrain? Check]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157187.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) Just felt like he was never going to lose ever.

Then Doomsday came along.

Then Superman was revived.... Which is why I quite enjoy Ultimate Marvel - people actually stay dead.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157369.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
And gosh I hope this is another origin story because I would like to know more about this new fellow. Oh it is? Joy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157724.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
So, basically, this is going to end in a re-skin of Smith v. Neo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157748.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157748.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
Energy beams from fingertips? Erm. Peely expanding "S" symbols? Ugh. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3157812.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158559.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

Cane wrote:Both Neo and Smith seemed like they were well-trained grandmasters of martial arts. Only General Zod would be well versed when it comes to that. By comparison Superman's fighting style lacks in fighting fundamentals but his natural talent overcomes a lot of that. Hopefully its fun, I like that they cast the Boardwalk Empire detective as Zod as well

Natural talent? You mean the fact that he is super fast and super duper strong doesnt count?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158786.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

KingCracker wrote:

Cane wrote:Both Neo and Smith seemed like they were well-trained grandmasters of martial arts. Only General Zod would be well versed when it comes to that. By comparison Superman's fighting style lacks in fighting fundamentals but his natural talent overcomes a lot of that. Hopefully its fun, I like that they cast the Boardwalk Empire detective as Zod as well

Natural talent? You mean the fact that he is super fast and super duper strong doesnt count?

Not when fighting things that are just as fast and strong, if not more so in some cases.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3158888.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159299.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)
Whereas, Batman and other "heroes" are all mortals... the risks are more real and the plots are more believable, not to mention, there are more of them...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159751.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

A lot of this comes down to movie/tv FX limitations at the time many of them were made. Singer was a little to reverent to the older films combined with a long messy production (think Duke Nukem Forever) and I think that held him back from doing something better than Superman Returns ended up being, which was essentialy a remake of the original Donner film. The airplane rescue in IMAX 3D was still really awesome though.

They never really got to play up the more Sci-fi elements of Superman. Sure he is damn near invulnerable by human terms, but in the comics (and animated series) he faces alien armadas, Brainiac, Doomsday, Darksied, Lobo, and a host of other threats that can match him. Batman is an urban drama, Superman is Science Fiction.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3159979.page GMT First Look at Superman (official pic not a leak)

AvatarForm wrote:What defeats any Superman movie for me is that this guy is nigh indestructible and the only way to deal with him comes in an extremely rare form... or harming his loved ones... whom he should take better care of as they seem to be kidnapped too regularly...

Whereas, Batman and other "heroes" are all mortals... the risks are more real and the plots are more believable, not to mention, there are more of them...

Although I'd also say the problem is really with writers' depictions of his power levels in recent decades, rather than an intrinsic flaw of the character. I mean, at one point he routinely pushed planets around, bathed in supernovas and flew at superluminal speeds. The Donner film (and therefore the Singer film), being rooted in the '70s era Superman, tended toward the more extreme side of the power scale. Ever-increasing powers make for great spectacle, but they certainly don't help people identify with the character.

Contrast those examples with the Superman cartoon of the '90s, in which he felt it when he got punched in the face by a giant robot, for instance. I think that level of power works much, much better in a world also containing Batman.

Which segues into another point. To a certain degree, the "can't be beaten" thing could be said about most superheroes. Is the outcome ever in question for Batman? You know he's going to overcome any challenge. That's because of smarts and guts rather than powers, but victory is still assured. The difference then IMO must be whether the characters are relatable. And that also comes back to superpowers, right? It's really not about normal lives and secret identities because most of us can identify more with Clark Kent's life than Bruce Wayne's. But we CAN better relate to Batman using smarts and skill to defeat his enemy (and getting some bruises, etc in the process). Defeating your enemy by flinging a small continent into space, different thing.

So IMO the real trick to making Superman work is to find the right power level that retains some spectacle but falls well short of godlike.

Edit: Ahtman also makes good points about their respective villains and threats. Although then again the problems still exist when you try to team them. Which is probably why the Superman of the Justice League cartoons is more inline with the Superman cartoon from a power level standpoint.

Off-topic, but IMO that's a challenge for the Avengers movie too. When you think about various threats and their respective scales, how do you portray Iron Man and Cap fighting side-by-side? One can fly and supersonic speed and is virtually a one-man army, and the other...runs around on the ground punching out people and throwing a shield. You can pull it off in the comics easier than you can on screen. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3160666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/387783/3160666.page GMT