Daston wrote:I was going to pre-order it on steam however the link is broken in Retribution :( just sends you to the store front

AresX8 wrote:Just a correction: It's a demo, not a beta.

Joshh wrote:

Daston wrote:I was going to pre-order it on steam however the link is broken in Retribution :( just sends you to the store front

Just search it from the Store menu. Much easier. And yeah, whenever I click a link to it, it always redirects to the main menu for some reason.

Brother SRM wrote:I'm having some issues running the game for unknown reasons, as I have a computer that exceeds every system requirement twofold. I was able to play despite these (6 minute loadtimes and a stuttering cacophony of sound) and despite those issues, the game is a blast. I've replayed the demo three times, and while it froze up two of those three times, I'm eager to play it again. The game is so damn good that I'm going back to it despite horrible technical problems with my computer. Fortunately, it will be upgraded by the time the game comes out proper.

Rayth Phaenor wrote:I'm going to be a pessimist and say that from what I've seen in the demo, I found the melee combat to be a slogfest. The entire process seems to be swing in every direction to build up fury, occasionally stun and execute a random boy for health, and enter fury mode when things become unmanageable or you have to deal with nobz. Maybe I'm spoiled after having just played Arkham Asylum, but I think that the addition of a counter-attack mechanic would have gone a great measure to smooth it up. Though it could also be that only some of the combos were included in the demo and/or different combos are available with different melee weapons.

Ouze wrote:
I hate to ask something so elementary, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers? Nvidia has a toggle for a clean install.

Brother SRM wrote:

Ouze wrote:
I hate to ask something so elementary, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers? Nvidia has a toggle for a clean install.

Yet to uninstall/reinstall video drivers, but it's a sound issue. My sound stutters like a mother and the longer I play, the more of the game it takes with it. Generally it runs alright and looks fantastic, but the sound stuttering and obscenely long load times (I can't even figure out what's causing those) are a pain.

Joshh wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Ouze wrote:
I hate to ask something so elementary, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers? Nvidia has a toggle for a clean install.

Yet to uninstall/reinstall video drivers, but it's a sound issue. My sound stutters like a mother and the longer I play, the more of the game it takes with it. Generally it runs alright and looks fantastic, but the sound stuttering and obscenely long load times (I can't even figure out what's causing those) are a pain.

What do your background tasks look like? I have a metric ton of crap running in the background on my lappy, and it eats up a lot of processor power. Before I play any game for extended periods, I always try to shut down as many of them as possible to avoid my HDD overheating.

That might be a problem with the load times. Mine are typically about 15-20 seconds. Running everything on high, 1920x1080. I have an i7, though. Maybe a bit overkill but some of my engineering software needs it.

Grundz wrote:Thats about how I feel as well, though I have been spoiled by ninja gaiden it feels like in comparison he's the staypuff marshmellow man punching green trees.
It /is/ alot of fun, it just isnt very technically challenging even on hard.

sourclams wrote:

Grundz wrote:Thats about how I feel as well, though I have been spoiled by ninja gaiden it feels like in comparison he's the staypuff marshmellow man punching green trees.
It /is/ alot of fun, it just isnt very technically challenging even on hard.

I'm assuming since the demo just has you plowing through hordes of Boyz and 3 Nobz that combat gets more difficult as you face fewer but more elite opponents like MANz/Chaos.

Grey Templar wrote:
How are the computer controls? are they intuitive and easy to use. I have had alot of 3rd and 1st person games with odd controls that I have had to extensivly change(very annoying)

Grey Templar wrote: Mine is downloading as we speak


How are the computer controls? are they intuitive and easy to use. I have had alot of 3rd and 1st person games with odd controls that I have had to extensivly change(very annoying)

Joshh wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Ouze wrote:
I hate to ask something so elementary, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers? Nvidia has a toggle for a clean install.

Yet to uninstall/reinstall video drivers, but it's a sound issue. My sound stutters like a mother and the longer I play, the more of the game it takes with it. Generally it runs alright and looks fantastic, but the sound stuttering and obscenely long load times (I can't even figure out what's causing those) are a pain.

What do your background tasks look like? I have a metric ton of crap running in the background on my lappy, and it eats up a lot of processor power. Before I play any game for extended periods, I always try to shut down as many of them as possible to avoid my HDD overheating.

That might be a problem with the load times. Mine are typically about 15-20 seconds. Running everything on high, 1920x1080. I have an i7, though. Maybe a bit overkill but some of my engineering software needs it.

Brother SRM wrote:

Joshh wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Ouze wrote:
I hate to ask something so elementary, but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers? Nvidia has a toggle for a clean install.

Yet to uninstall/reinstall video drivers, but it's a sound issue. My sound stutters like a mother and the longer I play, the more of the game it takes with it. Generally it runs alright and looks fantastic, but the sound stuttering and obscenely long load times (I can't even figure out what's causing those) are a pain.

What do your background tasks look like? I have a metric ton of crap running in the background on my lappy, and it eats up a lot of processor power. Before I play any game for extended periods, I always try to shut down as many of them as possible to avoid my HDD overheating.

That might be a problem with the load times. Mine are typically about 15-20 seconds. Running everything on high, 1920x1080. I have an i7, though. Maybe a bit overkill but some of my engineering software needs it.

I've got nothing in the background running but Steam. I only have an onboard soundcard, but I've got twice as much RAM, hard drive space, and video card power than even the recommended specs. I'll try and reinstall my video card drivers when I get home from work. I'm upgrading on September first, but I wanna play the demo now dammit!

sourclams wrote:But I do agree that with no block or counterattack options the combat will have trouble getting more difficult than chop + shoulder roll + chop.

$pider wrote:
Make sure you upgrade the drivers for the onboard sound. I have had to do it myself when I encountered the same issues your having. Do you have a camera for video chat? Does the camera include speakers? Kill the camera as well. That way you are elminating all of the extra sound sources. If you use speakers limit it to that, same for headphones. Process of elimination will help here. However the first thing I would do is update onboard audio drivers. You can get them from your motherboard manufacturer's web site.

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

Stormrider wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

[youtube][/youtube]

Holy gak Batman! I want it...NOW!

Melissia wrote:

Stormrider wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

[youtube][/youtube]

Holy gak Batman! I want it...NOW!

Hah, I remember that guy. Though he wasn't so excited when I last heard him...

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

Grey Templar wrote:I can't find the combat knife anywhere. its probably not avaliable, seeing as Thunderhammers are listed too.


I am finding it odd that sometimes when you go to execute a Nob, you fail to do so and get your face smashed in. is it a matter of timing?

kenshin620 wrote:One of my favorite reviewers has played the demo, heres his video. Might want to read the controls though before jumping in though. Looks like he loves it

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

Brother SRM wrote:

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

Have you tried playing it? The demo is available to everyone today. Caving in Ork faces yourself may change your mind.

Also, it's not a rehash of the same game from 2007 made by remnants of the once great studio that originally made it

farmersboy wrote:
I can't abide 3rd person shooters - it's like watching someone else play. I want to be inside that suit of powere armour with retinal displays, image enhancement and all....

Brother SRM wrote:

farmersboy wrote:
I can't abide 3rd person shooters - it's like watching someone else play. I want to be inside that suit of powere armour with retinal displays, image enhancement and all....

Try the demo out; it's free. Hand to hand combat at the level it is in Space Marine would be positively nauseating in first person; games like Breakdown have tried this, and there was a very appropriate scene where you throw up in first person. I'm an FPS junkie myself, and I still wouldn't have Space Marine any other way. It's more God of War than Gears of War is what I'm getting at.

farmersboy wrote:
I can't abide 3rd person shooters - it's like watching someone else play. I want to be inside that suit of powere armour with retinal displays, image enhancement and all....

farmersboy wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

farmersboy wrote:
I can't abide 3rd person shooters - it's like watching someone else play. I want to be inside that suit of powere armour with retinal displays, image enhancement and all....

Try the demo out; it's free. Hand to hand combat at the level it is in Space Marine would be positively nauseating in first person; games like Breakdown have tried this, and there was a very appropriate scene where you throw up in first person. I'm an FPS junkie myself, and I still wouldn't have Space Marine any other way. It's more God of War than Gears of War is what I'm getting at.

Mmm, I see what you're saying, but I think the real issue is I'm a MW2 on-line junkie...I wanted the W40K equivalent.

Uriels_Flame wrote:It all looks cool except that goofy U symbol and blue armor....

Grey Templar wrote:

Wait for a Guardmen game. that will probably be a 1st person shooter

farmersboy wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Wait for a Guardmen game. that will probably be a 1st person shooter

Who wants to be a Guardsman? I want blessed power armour (in yellow) and a bolter, not a flak jacket and a puny lasgun.

Let's just hope MW3 is not a steaming pile of manure like BLOPS was....

farmersboy wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Wait for a Guardmen game. that will probably be a 1st person shooter

Who wants to be a Guardsman? I want blessed power armour (in yellow) and a bolter, not a flak jacket and a puny lasgun.

Let's just hope MW3 is not a steaming pile of manure like BLOPS was....

Grey Templar wrote:

farmersboy wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Wait for a Guardmen game. that will probably be a 1st person shooter

Who wants to be a Guardsman? I want blessed power armour (in yellow) and a bolter, not a flak jacket and a puny lasgun.

Let's just hope MW3 is not a steaming pile of manure like BLOPS was....

Whats the point of a 1st person when you want your yellow armor? you can't see anything except your arms and weapon.


a 1st person mode would be nice, but it isn't required. 3rd person is much better for Melee combat as you have more spatial awarness, and Melee is the most effective way to kill the orks in the demo. the ranged attacks are really only good for the ranged enemies.

Grey Templar wrote:Wait for a Guardmen game. that will probably be a 1st person shooter

Brother SRM wrote:

Uriels_Flame wrote:It all looks cool except that goofy U symbol and blue armor....

For anyone complaining that you're an Ultramarine, there's already mods to change your texture into a Blood Angel, Black Templar, Deathwatch, whatever. They're all on Relic's forums or you could Google them. Yes, mods for a demo. They do exist.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I might download it from the PSN tonight, see what it's like.

Ouze wrote:
It's like jumping over an exploding shark

Ouze wrote:It's like jumping over an exploding shark on a skateboard while Christina Hendricks is giving you a thumbs-up.

kenshin620 wrote:

Ouze wrote:
It's like jumping over an exploding shark

Are you suggesting that we have jumped the shark?

H.B.M.C. wrote:I might download it from the PSN tonight, see what it's like.

Alpharius wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:I might download it from the PSN tonight, see what it's like.

Whoa - wait a second!

You mean I can multiplayer from half a world away with H.B.M.C.?

Yeah - lets make this happen!!!

Alpharius wrote:You mean I can multiplayer from half a world away with H.B.M.C.?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Alpharius wrote:You mean I can multiplayer from half a world away with H.B.M.C.?

Yes, I recently acquired a PS3. Of course, the last 30 hours I've spent using it have been sunk into Just Cause 2... and given I'm only 1/5th of the way through that game I may still be playing it in December.

Grey Templar wrote:Another slight problem seems to be the damage bolters do. It takes several shots in succession to down an ork, even on easy, unless you take care to do head shots.

-Loki- wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Another slight problem seems to be the damage bolters do. It takes several shots in succession to down an ork, even on easy, unless you take care to do head shots.

Well, that would be because it's a game, not a Space Marine simulator.

Games do need to be challenging.

Necros wrote:Those other skins look great. They'll prolly add them to PS3 and make you pay like $10 for each one.. DLCs are getting outta hand...

Ouze wrote:My only beef with Just Cause 2 is that it caters to my ADD so much it's hard to get stuff done. Now I'm in a rolling shootout! Now I'm surfing a APC! Now I'm parachuting from a blimp!

dienekes96 wrote:All I can say is that I never thought it would be this good. I figured a Space Marine action game would coast on the license and be a knock-off of some other popular game. This game gets the weight and presence of a Marine, it balances the shooting and melée very well, and seems to get the scale right. The Jump Pack feels right, the bolt pistol and Stalker are awesome, and it just works.

Occasionally the camera system gets wonky, and the action can get too frenetic such that melée becomes button mashing, but overall, I'm very impressed. Would have loved a power fist in the kit somewhere, but they can save that for a sequel.

Brother SRM wrote:Yeah, Marines can shoot, but they have the potential for a lot more varied gameplay as per Space Marine. Considering their focus on close combat, punching faces in, and chainsawing bad dudes

H.B.M.C. wrote:You're showing your age Ouze.


Anyway, can't find it on the Aussie PSN. I guess different countries get a demo at different dates.

'Cause that makes sense.

Ouze wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Yeah, Marines can shoot, but they have the potential for a lot more varied gameplay as per Space Marine. Considering their focus on close combat, punching faces in, and chainsawing bad dudes

But are they bad enough dudes to rescue the president?

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

All you have to do is hold down Ctrl with your pinky and you switch to a more-or-less first person view (scope view or sort of iron sights view for ranged, close over the shoulder for the bolt pistol). It actually works pretty well as you can hold it down and trot along, blasting faces, then very quickly switch to melee whenever you need.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:

farmersboy wrote:Well, I was interested in it, but seeing as it's a 3rd person and not a 1st person shooter, I'll just wait for MW3 instead.

All you have to do is hold down Ctrl with your pinky and you switch to a more-or-less first person view (scope view or sort of iron sights view for ranged, close over the shoulder for the bolt pistol). It actually works pretty well as you can hold it down and trot along, blasting faces, then very quickly switch to melee whenever you need.