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				<description><![CDATA[ Which character's backstory really does it for you?  Purely from a fluff perspective.<br /> <br /> I really like Goreshade; for a start, he's the only cryx character I can remotely believe is doing what he/she feels is right, and he has a ruthless streak about a mile wide, willing to kill anyone and anything, including his own Gods and children to save the immortal souls of his entire species, admirable, in a Hitler/Stalin kind of way.  He also has balls, balls enough to try (and apparently succeed) and play Toruk, one of the most powerful entities in all of Caen.<br /> <br /> The story when he faces off against Ossyan, is just great, the oozing self confidence and self righteousness are palpable!<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Goreshade has a really neat anti-hero thing going.  He's also I think unique in the Cryx line-up in that he's generlaly been pretty competent and successful.  Even when he has setbacks, it's things like, "Failed to kill a god", which is something impressive in the attempt if not so much the results.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(604);'>HIs</span> plan being on the slgiht psychotic level is pretty neat too.<br /> <br /> I find more and more myself liking that Krueger in the Hordes books gets the attention he has been getting of late.  He has major setbacks os far, but they do play up how much eh's stirring the pot in things and he has a nice rebel vibe that I can appreciate, even if his methods are a bit scary.<br /> <br /> And Magnus has also had a lot of sweet moments.  He has some good fiction to him, and he as a character is someone I can sympathize with really well.  I like to describe him as a patriot, even though it is pretty obvious he's a downright ruthelss terrorist in technicality.  He's complicated a character, whcih is nice.<br /> <br /> Note that there are characters I feel are worth a bit of ire.  I have yet to read anything involving Haley, anywhere, that i haven't hated.  Something about her fluff rubs me the wrong way.<br /> <br /> And stuff.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So far I'm pretty fond of Strakhov. Kinda of a sarcastic badass that I find amusing.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I make no secret of my love for the Bastard.   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:33:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmmm. <br /> I guess my favourite Troll 'lock so far is Gunnbjorn, actually. He's got an interesting mindset, what with trying to make the Trollbloods into a proper army, clashing with the more traditional elements, the slight exasperation at the irregular nature of their forces. <br /> Krueger and Kromac from Circle are both decent. Especially Krueger. I like how he's so ballsy.<br /> <br /> None of the Everblight Warlocks have particularly defined characters, but Everblight himself is a pretty interesting meglomaniac. <br /> I find the Skorne a bit difficult to keep straight in my head, and I don't have a good knowledge of Warmachine outside of the fluff in Prime, but from Prime, Caine and Kreoss are my favourites.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:26:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Definitely Magnus, especially now that he's over being a lovestruck prepubescent girl over Vinter. Always loved Mags' story, but the blind devotion to Vinter was a bit odd.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:28:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Skarre.  She's a mortal general in an army where other generals consist of obscenely powerful undead abominations, her subordinates fear failing her more than they fear rampaging monstrocities that feed on souls, she can see through the threads of fate to alter the present and future, and she leads an armada across a thousand mile warfront.  That's one hell of a woman!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Kirbinator wrote:</cite>Skarre.  She's a mortal general in an army where other generals consist of obscenely powerful undead abominations, her subordinates fear failing her more than they fear rampaging monstrocities that feed on souls, she can see through the threads of fate to alter the present and future, and she leads an armada across a thousand mile warfront.  That's one hell of a woman!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Plus, she's got a Great Rack!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:12:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Kirbinator wrote:</cite>Skarre.  She's a mortal general in an army where other generals consist of obscenely powerful undead abominations, her subordinates fear failing her more than they fear rampaging monstrocities that feed on souls, she can see through the threads of fate to alter the present and future, and she leads an armada across a thousand mile warfront.  That's one hell of a woman!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That she is.  In fact I find her the only interesting character in Cryx besides Gorshade.<br /> <br /> For characters in the factions I actually play.<br /> <br /> Cygnar - Sloan, while their may be more dramatic characters i find that she has a flaw in her personality which makes her seem more "normal", most of the other casters seem to lack seem to lack any real flaws that tie them back in with more normal people.  <br /> <br /> Retribution - i don't know if there's any one caster that has really jumped out at me.  I think Ossayan's intro has been the most dramatic action a Ret caster has been in yet.<br /> <br /> Skorne - Morticar, he apparently cheated death and nobody knows how.  I also have enjoyed Hexeris and can't wait to see what he did to become epic.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:12:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Platuan4th wrote:</cite>Definitely Magnus, especially now that he's over being a lovestruck prepubescent girl over Vinter. Always loved Mags' story, but the blind devotion to Vinter was a bit odd.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Goddamn, I'm happy someone else was annoyed with that story.<br /> <br /> For those of you who haven't read the NQ, or want a 30-second recap<br /> <br /> <br /> (A slightly insulted)<div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> "Magnus, heree-- I'm some warcaster captain who cares about my troops, and what's more, I care about people I don't know. (Though apparently I've already started torturing guys, which doesn't really fit the rest.) I've also got a good friend (who's clearly not going to die before the end of the story). <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">  <br /> <br /> Okay, I'm going to join some big offensive against cryx. <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> All your old friends are there (I mean, here)! Leto (who I dislike for some reason, even though we share similar views/reactions to things), Nemo (who I dislike because he's old, or I fight him in the future, or something), Vinter (who's really cool, or something, because I aspire to be a bastard), and Siege (who's of course not siege yet, and he's okay, I guess). Vinter gives a lackluster speech, which I care about for some reason. <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Lots of guys (including a warcaster I idolize) die, I'm sad, and so is Leto, who I <i>am</i> like but <i>don't</i> like (again, for some reason). Vinter is stoic, so I love him. I suck up to Vinter and get a promotion.<img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I go on a mission and take initiative, and Vinter takes me aside to scold me about not being stupid. <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> There are many contributing factors to me having issues controlling my bladder.  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I go on a harder mission, and lots of my favorite trenchers die. Things look tough, but we win. We start to demolish the factory that we're supposed to. Things go bad again, but should be salvageable. Then I get spooked because bile thralls are scary, and I can't wait 20 seconds to try to save my friend (who at some point during the battle gave me his lucky charm, ensuring he wouldn't die with pathos).  <img src="/s/i/a/98211dee9c461fcb24c29d4004f43f7f.gif" border="0"> Instead of waiting or trying to help the situation, I seal him in a room full of bile thralls, but not before exploding the factory at him to melt him with super acid! Mission accomplished, though I feel sad (for my friend dieing, not the stupidity)  <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Vinter says hi later and I'm sad because my army died. He says, 'no, it's fine.' I say 'okay' and forget about feelings about my dead friend who just died 'cause of… other feelings. End. <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> 
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</div><br /> <br /> Now, I like hardened badass Magnus: he's my favorite <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(197);'>WM</span> character, from his cool theme list and vendetta against Stryker, to his humble origins as Bizarro-Stryker and an Army of Darkness joke, but I just don't see how a spineless sycophant turns in to a the current Magnus. It doesn't fit his current character, and I can't see how that alone could be the turning point ("someone with more power than I says I shouldn't care about people, so I don't").<br /> <br /> I also thought his new bit with <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm pretty fond of Alten Ashley. His story is rather amusing and he's damn good for 2 points. I also really enjoy the self proclaimed Lord Karver, BMMD, esqIII. <br /> <br /> Silly characters aside, I would have to say Molik Karn is pretty intense. It says something about Makeda that her gaze was what tamed him... out of sheer fear. Dominar Rasheth is pretty neat too. His existence is offensive to the entire Empire. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i would have to say Sevrous from Menoth.<br /> <br /> Most of the other warcasters in menoth are scared of him. (except Feora and Harbinger of course)<br /> <br /> Or Vayl.. probly the most Evil caster in the game.. Turn on your whole Race for more power ? harsh]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Favorite Character... hmm... that's a tough one for me...<br /> <br /> &lt;-  *points*<br /> <br /> After Kara I really like Nemo and Caine (I love my Cygnar)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just as another bonus to Skarre in case the Great Rack wasn't good enough, what other mortal can claim that she has earned both the eternal respect of a Lich Lord (Terminus) and the eternal ire of a Lich Lord (Asphyxious) at the same time?  Further, that said ire-filled Lich can't do anything about it out of fear of repercussion!  That is one hell of a woman.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Denny.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Aduro]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hoarluk, if only he was more well rounded with respect abilities I'd play him more. Kaya, is tied with Hoarluk and Absylonia a close third. <br /> <br /> What can I say? I like beastial as a defininng characteristic.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I haven't read to much of the fluff since mkII.  The last stuff I read was from Superiority during MkI.  I think based off of that book and the books before it, Caine was tops in my book.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to have to go with Borka.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Aduro wrote:</cite>Denny.</div></blockquote><br /> Denny's among the undead swarm nowadays and owes a favor to the Old Witch.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ She is Now. But she wasn't when she Hell Mouthed Terminus.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to have to go with Dartan Vilmon as my favorite character in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(197);'>WM</span>/H.  He isn't super powerful like the Warcasters/locks but he is one of the best swordsmen in the world.  He also stays to his beliefs, and the Paladins of the Wall are the good guys of the Protectorate.  They protect their flock as well as apply their swords to their enemies' faces!  <br /> <br /> The Harbinger herself picked him as one of her bodyguards, and he defied Voyle, Menoth's chosen leader of the Protectorate, to protect innocent Menites from being fired upon.  <br /> <br /> Yeah, he's awesome in my book.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Favorite so far?  Would have to be Cassius the Oathkeeper & Wurmwood.  When the Druid council decided Kruegar was to be killed for being a traitor it was Cassius the Oathkeeper & Wurmwood who put an end to it.  He showed, said that Kruegar was his whatever of the Apolcolypse and left.  Morvahna reacted like a spoiled high school cheerleader before being told to hush.  Good bit of fluff that was, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.<br /> <br /> A close second is Kraye for me.  His reactions to the whole Haley events in the Cygnar book was pretty interesting.  He witnesses Haley destroy some super powerful Liche with a crazy display of power and says after, "Want to tell me what that was all about?"  Subtle question for a "Holy CRAP" moment.     ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorscha is a pretty cool character along with Vlad from Khador. I find the whole thing they have together interesting. I always find it funny when I play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(357);'>eSorscha</span> and my friend puts down Butcher since Butcher killed Sorscha's father. <br /> <br /> I wish Legion of Everblight had more interesting warlocks, but Everblight is cool. I like Lylyth. She seems to be the most "human" out of all of the locks. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Aduro wrote:</cite>She is Now. But she wasn't when she Hell Mouthed Terminus.</div></blockquote><br /> That's a good point.  Blasting Terminus does take pretty big ladyballs.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:43:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I gotta say, after reading the fluff on Alexia, I have really taken a shine to her.  Just the image of a 15-16 year old girl beating the snot out of 4 armed couriers and 4 Illuminated so she could take 'her' sword back is just great.  "She's not evil, just misunderstood".]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MudgeBlack wrote:</cite>I gotta say, after reading the fluff on Alexia, I have really taken a shine to her.  Just the image of a 15-16 year old girl beating the snot out of 4 armed couriers and 4 Illuminated so she could take 'her' sword back is just great.  "She's not evil, just misunderstood".</div></blockquote><br /> 16 my a**.<br /> <br /> The same way the Harbinger's around 16, but 7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(438);'>ft</span> tall and doesn't exactly have other physical characteristics of a 16YO.<br /> <br /> Their ages are silly: Nemo's a bajillion*; Karchev has been in his suit for something like 80 years, which happened after he was a full warcaster and the ranking officer of his army; The Coven are something like 18 but look 25; Magnus is probably in his late 50's and can, with a game leg, outpace and beat the snot out of a warjack (given game rules); Skarre has got to be around 60 to make the new Magnus fluff make sense, Vinter must be in his 60's and can rip a warjack in half, etc.<br /> <br /> <b>Too long: </b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span>'s ages are inconsistent with how their characters act. Also, they don't have many characters that actually read as anything but asexual (with the rare seductress exception), but that's a different topic.<br /> <br /> *actually, around 75, which is close enough to a bajillion, when talking about unaugmented humans in combat zones]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:45:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ashlynn.  If only Privateer Press had given us a true Highborn list for the Journeyman League, I'd never have sold my Mercs.  *sigh*<br /> <br /> Then the Harbinger, and Vilmon.  Though I think most of the characters from Menoth are pretty cool in their own right.  Except the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(251);'>HR</span>.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite><br /> The same way the Harbinger's around 16, but 7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(438);'>ft</span> tall and doesn't exactly have other physical characteristics of a 16YO.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Harbinger's about 20 now:<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-6/18/2010-doug-seacat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-6/18/2010-doug-seacat</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorscha. <br /> She has boobs. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice find. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:28:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Coolyo294 wrote:</cite>Sorscha. <br /> She has boobs. </div></blockquote><br /> Not that you can tell from that heavy coat of hers.  She could go on a shopping trip with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(354);'>eDenny</span> to let 'em breathe. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:49:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Coolyo294 wrote:</cite>Sorscha. <br /> She has boobs. </div></blockquote><br /> You almost got Dr. Pepper to come out of my nose.....]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>George Spiggott wrote:</cite>Nice find. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If you liked that, then bold my friends!<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"><a href="http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?59500-The-Doug-ument-v.1.1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">The Doug-ument!</a></span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:10:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Platuan4th wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite><br /> The same way the Harbinger's around 16, but 7 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(438);'>ft</span> tall and doesn't exactly have other physical characteristics of a 16YO.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Harbinger's about 20 now:<br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-6/18/2010-doug-seacat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-6/18/2010-doug-seacat</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not when the model was released, so I don't really agree with that statement. Also, I think that chart really highlights how ridiculous some of those ages are. Particularly, one of note is Severius, at 85, has about the same stats as a rank and file soldier: not fantastic, mind you, but I'd like to see an 85YO duke it out with a trained soldier of 25.<br /> <br /> ...actually, I take that back, it would be sort of pathetic and brutal, I imagine.<br /> <i><br /> EDIT: looking at that chart is really quite amusing...</i><br /> Caine in his octopus-arm drawing is supposed to be 33?<br /> Madrak leads a hunting party at the ripe old age of 17?<br /> Sorscha is older than Stryker, who is older than Darius?<br /> Haley is a pretty old prodigy.<br /> <br /> Edit 2:<br /> <br /> I think that makes Vinter's kid something like 14  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite><br /> Not when the model was released, so I don't really agree with that statement. Also, I think that chart really highlights how ridiculous some of those ages are. Particularly, one of note is Severius, at 85, has about the same stats as a rank and file soldier: not fantastic, mind you, but I'd like to see an 85YO duke it out with a trained soldier of 25.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You DO realize that the IK universe is originally based on D&D rules, right? Meaning age isn't really anything but a number to a warcaster's abilities, especially considering the level/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(185);'>CRA</span> of many of them(high 20's/low 30's). You can't really compare them to our society's notion of age and ability.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Platuan4th]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I play the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPG</span>, and think that the way age works in D&D (at least 3.5) is equally absurd.<br /> <br /> Yes, I can compare their ages, because I believe that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> has set up a narrative and temporal world that for the most part acts like ours (momentum exists, people form civilizations, there are four seasons in sequence, etc. etc.), and as such, without explanations counter to it, I don't feel that I need to suspend my disbelief when faced with a lack of explanations.<br /> <br /> For example (technology):<br /> Magic exists in the IKs. It effects alchemy. Alchemy effects technology. Technology is different than ours in the IKs. I'll buy that.<br /> <br /> Highly efficient steam engine exists in the IKs (evidenced by warjacks*). Steam powered vehicles exist in the IKs (evidenced by trains). For some reason, they decide that the best mode of moving a tank is giant horses. I won't buy that.<br /> <br /> *I'd argue that they're extremely inefficient or extremely broken, with clouds of flame and smoke coming off of them, while an efficient steam engine will lose little heat (no flames spouting) and burn efficiently (little smoke), but for a boiler as small as theirs to work, the assumption is they'd be efficient. But, this is a product of artistic license (if you can call it that).<br /> <br /> <br /> Example 2 (practicality):<br /> Merc warjacks pull double-duty as tools of labor, or are converted from a labor setting. They have hands for holding weapons, and can (mostly) let go of them. I'll buy that.<br /> <br /> Traditional military grade warjacks more often than not hold weapons in their hands, regardless of any labor application**, even though hands would be incredibly difficult to maintain and easy targets for disabling their weapons. I don't buy that.<br /> <br /> **the protectorate could be an exception here, except they've decided that the "scrappy underdog/hidden army" thing doesn't really apply any more, so I wouldn't argue this. Khador's lack of cortexes might also make an exception.<br /> <br /> Example 3 (science):<br /> Magic allows warcaster armor to be lighter than normal. Warcasters can wear an absurd amount of armor with a decent amount of mobility. I'll buy this.<br /> <br /> For some reason, caves in the IK get to the point of below freezing. There's no explanation for why their caves would act differently than ours. Again, I don't buy this.<br /> <br /> edits: examples.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ spiralingcadaver]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite>Not when the model was released, so I don't really agree with that statement. Also, I think that chart really highlights how ridiculous some of those ages are. Particularly, one of note is Severius, at 85, has about the same stats as a rank and file soldier: not fantastic, mind you, but I'd like to see an 85YO duke it out with a trained soldier of 25.</div></blockquote><br /> He's also wearing a suit of steam-driven power armor.  Without it, his stats would probably be roughly on par with Rhineholdt.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite>For some reason, caves in the IK get to the point of below freezing. There's no explanation for why their caves would act differently than ours. Again, I don't buy this.</div></blockquote><br /> If you're referring to the cave that was storing the Athanc Cryx found, you do realise it was in a Cyriss-tech refrigeration unit, right?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Laughing Man wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite>Not when the model was released, so I don't really agree with that statement. Also, I think that chart really highlights how ridiculous some of those ages are. Particularly, one of note is Severius, at 85, has about the same stats as a rank and file soldier: not fantastic, mind you, but I'd like to see an 85YO duke it out with a trained soldier of 25.</div></blockquote><br /> He's also wearing a suit of steam-driven power armor.  Without it, his stats would probably be roughly on par with Rhineholdt.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite>For some reason, caves in the IK get to the point of below freezing. There's no explanation for why their caves would act differently than ours. Again, I don't buy this.</div></blockquote><br /> If you're referring to the cave that was storing the Athanc Cryx found, you do realise it was in a Cyriss-tech refrigeration unit, right?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nope, when Thagrosh, Vayl, and one of the twins are going through some caves and end up in Rhul, they mention that the snowy mountains are warm in comparison with the freezing caves/tunnels they were in.<br /> <br /> And, re: severius (the 85YO, though Nemo isn't much younger), yes, there's armor, but no, there's no indication that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(195);'>WC</span> armor increases anything other than your strength and durability (i.e. I'm pretty sure it dosen't effect your reflexes, ability to lead, ability to see, etc.). I'm fine with the Circle having ancient guys duke it out b/c of extra vitality and so forth, but I'd argue that an 85 year old guy in a suit of magical plate mail is probably still not even an average combatant. Again, not basing on the D&D age system, which I think is ridiculous.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ spiralingcadaver]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite> but I'd argue that an 85 year old guy in a suit of magical plate mail is probably still not even an average combatant. Again, not basing on the D&D age system, which I think is ridiculous.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He's an 85 year old man who's the leader of a religion whose god actively intervenes in the mortal world. Why do you think Voyle was so awesome?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Platuan4th]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Platuan4th wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>spiralingcadaver wrote:</cite> but I'd argue that an 85 year old guy in a suit of magical plate mail is probably still not even an average combatant. Again, not basing on the D&D age system, which I think is ridiculous.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He's an 85 year old man who's the leader of a religion whose god actively intervenes in the mortal world. Why do you think Voyle was so awesome?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Voyle is based on the monk archetype and, as such, supernatural in the setting: they're all about perfection and superhuman acts (like higher level druids, this is explained as part of what they are). I also actually have no idea whatsoever how old voyle was.<br /> <br /> However, I only sort of buy the ridiculousness of Voyle and Vinter (both being superhuman: Voyle with magic and probably a fair amount of skill, Vinter with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>raw</span> talent and some magic gear, from what I can tell).<br /> <br /> Whatever. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> sometimes explains things and often doesn't, and I was much more able to swallow the stupid stuff before I started being frustrated with the writing, through a combination of my standards increasing and my feeling that theirs are decreasing. This argument is somewhat circular.<br /> <br /> <br /> <font color='red'>Back on topic</font> (because I could rant/flame/argue about my disappointment with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span>'s writing/creative integrity indefinitely), regardless of some of how poor some of the writing has been, Magnus is my favorite character in the IK setting, and I'm glad that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> took him from a throwaway joke character to a real player in the world. Also, it doesn't hurt that he's pretty fun to play.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like Goreshade the bastards fluff most. He seems to be having an inner struggle and I have sympathy on him since his only trying to save his people. And just because his an freaking bastard too! <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Next favourite, Asphyxious. An evil, scheming monster... what more can you ask? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ The Epic Chaosdude!!!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>The Epic Chaosdude!!! wrote:</cite> Next favourite, Asphyxious. An evil, scheming monster... what more can you ask? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> I'd ask for that ridiculous fake Middle/Early Modern English he used for the first few books. At least they gave him a specific voice back then, even if it was silly.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Game wise, my fave would be pStriker, he has rarely let me down yet!<br /> Fluff wise i'd go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(205);'>eCaine</span>, this dude is crazy scary! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:14:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>derek wrote:</cite>Ashlynn.  If only Privateer Press had given us a true Highborn list for the Journeyman League, I'd never have sold my Mercs.  *sigh*<br /> <br /> Then the Harbinger, and Vilmon.  Though I think most of the characters from Menoth are pretty cool in their own right.  Except the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(251);'>HR</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The High Reclaimer is one of my other favorite characters.  I mean, he walked into the afterlife and back out.  And the Harbinger talks to him through Menoth, also pretty cool.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thanatos73]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thanatos73 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>derek wrote:</cite>Ashlynn.  If only Privateer Press had given us a true Highborn list for the Journeyman League, I'd never have sold my Mercs.  *sigh*<br /> <br /> Then the Harbinger, and Vilmon.  Though I think most of the characters from Menoth are pretty cool in their own right.  Except the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(251);'>HR</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The High Reclaimer is one of my other favorite characters.  I mean, he walked into the afterlife and back out.  And the Harbinger talks to him through Menoth, also pretty cool.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The whole no talking thing puts me on edge.  I don't trust people that are always silent, like thieves, in the night.  If I can't trust it, how can it win me games!<br /> <br /> I wasn't being serious, when I said that by the way.  I actually like most of the background for the Menoth Warcasters, and how Menoth in each way affected them, or how they interpret his will to affect the world around them.  It's that kind of interesting backstory that made me pick them up after getting rid of my mercs.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:36:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>derek wrote:</cite>I wasn't being serious, when I said that by the way.  I actually like most of the background for the Menoth Warcasters, and how Menoth in each way affected them, or how they interpret his will to affect the world around them.</div></blockquote><br /> I've never understood this. I'm seriously curious, how does one interpret the Will of God, when God makes his Will known on a regular basis, through saying things through beings directly linked to him, and variously manifesting miracles or allowing them to be manifested.<br /> <br /> It's like Voyle and the harbinger:<br /> "Hey, uh, Voyle? God says that's a bad idea."<br /> "Umm, nope. I interpret 'that's a bad idea,' as 'that's a bad idea to stop'."<br /> *fighting continues*<br /> "God says that's a bad idea, still."<br /> "Nope, I'm having fun punting warjacks, chill."<br /> *Stryker shoves the Harbinger's sword through Voyle*<br /> "Blerg, how could I have ever seen this coming? I am dead." X ~ X<br /> <br /> I'd love to hear the other side, I just can't figure it out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:24:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ spiralingcadaver]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well on topic I enjoyed Rezniks story in wrath, it gave him a bit more depth. And Doomshapers willingness to do whatever it takes made him a favorite of mine. Over all I really like the idea of Rosch, highwayman with very loose morals.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:55:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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