<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Could tech priests love?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Could tech priests love? can members of the Cult Mechanicus fall in love?

My view is ultimately the higher hierarchy cannot, as it is seem as a distraction. and are chem gelded, rite of clear thought etc away.
but deep down, they are human, with human urges and needs. this includes the emotion of love.
the Cult Mechanicus do see the need for the machine to have a soul, a human soul usually.
but this is part of being human right? so would this be prohibited?
or is this permitted as long as they complete their tasks?
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As the Talent says: "You no longer feel emotion, and are instead filled with the cold purity of logic. You are now immune to Fear, Pinning, and any effects that cause emotional disturbance. Others now find you disturbing, to say the least."

ETA: There are other Talents purchased earlier in the career that can make you immune to certain other emotions, but this particular talent removes them all. Also, if you have the Chem-Geld talent, it makes you immune to seduction attempts (as you no longer have any sort of sex-drive) but that is not the same thing as being incapable of the emotion of love.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446429.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446462.page GMT Could tech priests love?
My personal opinion:

The entire culture of the Mechanicus seems fairly technophile, to such an extent that it seeks to impose on everyone the cold logic of a machine over "fallible" human emotions such as compassion or love. People get assigned and reassigned based on some arcane program that governs a planet's entire workforce, it would not surprise me if, on a Forgeworld, "friend Computer" would select the most appropriate mates for the workers as well, whilst the less productive members of society are transferred to the protein bank for organic processing.

In DH, something like the Rite of Pure Thought would remove the source of such emotions, but that doesn't mean the character would not have sought to suppress them before. Obviously, as long as the source of emotions isn't surgically removed or suppressed (drugs?), a character may still be subjected to them. With a character like a Tech-Priest it just isn't likely, both because of where he comes from as well as what he seeks to achieve (at least I imagine the Priests Mechanicus to be even more sociopathic due to representing the driving force behind their culture). Just an obstacle to keep in mind.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446527.page GMT Could tech priests love?
The question was "can they", not "would they" or "[in the context of their society/religion] should they".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446536.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
Jimsolo wrote:something you'd need to work out with your GameMaster.


that though would probably be the best answer your going to get...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446543.page GMT Could tech priests love?
A newly-raised Tech-Priest, who has received only the initial implants and augmetics, is still mostly human, and still mostly given to all of the foibles of the human condition. However, given the culture of the AdMech, they are not as likely to go mooning over some boy/girl they like or that sort of thing... while they are still capable of feeling and experiencing the emotion of love, they are more than likely trained and taught to resist/repress such thoughts as "frailties of the flesh".... not terribly unlike a certain gender-restricted militant religious school.

With a good GM, though, such an event... a Tech-Priest falling in love, perhaps with a non-Mechanicus individual... could make for a very interesting character development story.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446640.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3446640.page GMT Could tech priests love?

Your inputs have been very helpful.
I will consider this and work it out with my GM.
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There was the Mechanicus Techpriest from Cadian blood too.. he formed friendships.

If you can form close friendships or bonds with people, I suspect you could form loving attachments. Even in the AdMech. You'd probaby be looked at as weird by your comrades, but well.. the AdMech is full of weird sorts. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3449855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3449855.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
On a more basic note, Mars consists mainly of members of the Cult Mechanicus; how do they keep their population up?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3449965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3449965.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
Your Friend Doctor Robert wrote:On a more basic note, Mars consists mainly of members of the Cult Mechanicus; how do they keep their population up?
Where does it say that? How would that even work? They'd need countless general workers for their vast machinery, for I do believe that Mars is known for its production output, and a factory isn't manned by clergy alone.

Unless, of course, "member of the Cult Mechanicus" simply means a member of their faith... I doubt the Tech-Priests would condone anyone not following the teachings of the Machine God on their forge worlds.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3450334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3450334.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
Tech Priests would be discouraged in the name of automated efficency but I have a feeling many secretly harbour fondness for some of the nicer human traits. Then they see the giant drill arms and death eye lasers they can buy and get on with their terrifyingly creepy lives.

P.S. I would like to add the OP title sounds like the name of a cheesy Imperial daytime melodrama.

"kiss me T57!"
"Oh Magos, but I am just a lowly Battle-Servitor, it would be heretical"
"Nonesense, the way the forge magma glistens off you multi-melta, the way your roboeyes dialte when sensing a xeno threat, I can't fight my computations any longer!"
"Oh Magos!"
"Oh T57!"

*Embrace. Synthe-Jazz swells. Vidi Screen darkens. Fin*]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3452695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3452695.page GMT Could tech priests love? RPG you read - in FFG's books, future Tech-Priests are picked out of the ranks of those young workers who have displayed the most aptitude with machinery.

Your idea about the numbers reminded me of the movie THX-1338, though. Maybe a good inspiration, too? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3452861.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3452861.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3454282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3454282.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
Lord Demon wrote:I have no doubt they can feel love. But chose not to act on the emotion. Iirc in on of the Cain novels there is a female tech-priest that for a long time could not get promoted because of her bodily urges. As in good food good company etc

Long live nanotechnology!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3454491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3454491.page GMT Could tech priests love? DH is a bit of a ladies man. I didn't even design him that way its just whenever he interacts with women, I crit succeed. now our GM just gives me +5 when using fellowship on women.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480627.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480627.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480647.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480647.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3480931.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482111.page GMT Could tech priests love?
I think they have that in their heads now.

The Tech Priests do love their creations and what they like to do is build stuff and start using that cranker to beat people with. So yes they love. Of course their love consists of blessing just about everything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482133.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482133.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482259.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love? Are you a magos? A servitor?
Are you a pdf trooper on a forge world? Skitarri?

The novels have all different levels of tech degrees for the cult.
I'd say of course the AdMech feel love. But that love is lost over time as the point of joining the cult is to become as machine as possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3482530.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3483954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3483954.page GMT Could tech priests love? BATTLE BOTS!

On subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love
Maybe this will help. Near the beginning of a career it could be a consummate (All encompassing, Passion, intimacy (sharing secrets, etc), commitment), but as the Magos becomes more and more initiated I (just my opinion) see the passion slipping away, then the intimacy, leaving only the cold calculated empty love of commitment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484056.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Weakness_of_Flesh

An Engineseer? Yes http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Felicia_Tayber]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484382.page GMT Could tech priests love?
I still think the Tech Priest starting with his "weakness of the flesh", and progressing further and further away from anything his partner could recognize would make for an interesting story line.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484743.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love? 40k?! Blasphemy!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3484768.page GMT Could tech priests love?
Otherwise no, they don't want to for fundamental reasons:
Ma55ter_fett wrote:A tech priest? No, they see it as a bad thing http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Weakness_of_Flesh
An Engineseer? Yes http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Felicia_Tayber
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3487619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3487619.page GMT Could tech priests love?
essia wrote:I am creating a tech priest as my dark heresy character and hit an issue,
can members of the Cult Mechanicus fall in love?

My view is ultimately the higher hierarchy cannot, as it is seem as a distraction. and are chem gelded, rite of clear thought etc away.
but deep down, they are human, with human urges and needs. this includes the emotion of love.
the Cult Mechanicus do see the need for the machine to have a soul, a human soul usually.
but this is part of being human right? so would this be prohibited?
or is this permitted as long as they complete their tasks?


They only love the Emperor and the Machine God.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3487745.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3487745.page GMT Could tech priests love?
Kroothawk wrote:They can screw around
Otherwise no, they don't want to for fundamental reasons:
Ma55ter_fett wrote:A tech priest? No, they see it as a bad thing http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Weakness_of_Flesh
An Engineseer? Yes http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Felicia_Tayber


An Engineseer is a Tech-Priest. It's either a specific job-title, a rank within the Mechanicus, or simply a variant term for "tech-priest", depending on the source you want to draw on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3488798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3488798.page GMT Re:Could tech priests love?
Joetaco wrote:Maybe a fling with a toaster, but otherwise i'd say no...

Jimsolo wrote:something you'd need to work out with your GameMaster.


that though would probably be the best answer your going to get...


I can think of a few toasters I'd like to have a fling with. Hello Battlestar Galactica. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3490889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3490889.page GMT Could tech priests love? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3490896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/403980/3490896.page GMT