<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "GW Spray Varnish Disappointment"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net GW Spray Varnish Disappointment Hi, this is my first post.

For the past 3 weeks I spent most of my free time painting my land raider crusader for my DIY chapter. I put a lot of effort into getting this model right because i wanted it to be the centre point of my army. I went to the extent of green stuffing my chapter symbol onto the side.

I then thought, seen as I'd put so much effort into this model, that I'd varnish it to protect it. very bad idea.

I had a brand new GW spray varnish to use, did everything to prepare the spray, correct temp & shook it up for ages. However, when I sprayed the model, to my horror, the varnish had lots of little bumps in it. The model is covered in them & it has totally ruined it, wasting both my time & money.

I don't believe there is anything I can do to correct this, & i was wondering if anyone else has experienced this.

Cheers.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40403.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW's "Purity Seal" is pretty crappy, even if you are carefull to do everything to ensure it comes out ok. I'd do a test spray with it on another model or a piece cut of plastic card, something you don't mind getting damaged, and seeing if it happens again. Or not bother and throw the can away and use Testors Dullcote (which has yet to give me any problems over ~15 years). If cloudy, a couple additional light coats (with time in between to allow them to dry), should take care of any cloudiness.

If it's realy fouled up, I don't know what, if anything you can do other than a) live with the bumpy mess or b)strip and start over. Pretty crappy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40484.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW is pretty inconsistant with its products.
I mean the Chaos Black Spray Paint isnt even Chaos Black. So they turn out 2 different colors.

Uh.. I dunno, lightly sand the areas a I guess. Just to remove the bumps.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40498.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40498.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment
How big are the bumps we're talking about here? Pinhead sized? Or is the whole surface a kind of rough bumpty texture? Got any good pictures of it? If there aren't tooooo many You may try lightly hitting them with a thin sanding stick and using a different clear on top of them after you smooth them out. Or, if they are everywhere but small enough, you might be able to get rid of them with just another overcoat.

Got an airbrush? I can recommend a few clear glosses and flats that would be a big help. Or you can carefully do a light brush coat of Future floor wax (yes, i'm serious. VERY common and useful stuff in the modelling world). Future is self-levelling, so if you don't go too thick with it, you won't get any brush marks.

Worst case, you may have to strip it down and start again, but there are other things to try before we get to that situation.

-Hans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40542.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40645.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW has been having big, big problems with purity seal for the last year and a half.
I ruined several models with it (after not having a problem with their matt varnish for years before) in January 2005 and will never, ever use it if there is a chance of it clouding up my models again.
A GW store manager painted a 2250 undivided daemon army for a WHFB tournament here in Australia in January and 2 units were ruined 2 weeks from the tourney before he realised the problem.

Even GW's store staff don't use it here in Brisbane, they all had models ruined just like everyone else.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40720.page GMT RE:GW Spray Varnish Disappointment http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/40723.page GMT RE:GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41550.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW does use some unusual materials sometimes. (For instance, CA kicker eats GW plastic pretty fiercely, and some of my glues don't bite quite as well as they do with other plastics.)

I'll stick with the suggestion of a careful brushcoat of future. You can test the future by just brushing it on section about a square inch or so to see what happens. It may fix the problem for you and give a nice tough gloss coat to the model. If that section works, do it in small sections at a time very lighty, make sure not to puddle it anywhere. It will self level, so any brush marks will go away in a few minutes. May take a couple coats to smooth everything out.

-Hans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41632.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41636.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/41636.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW but seems to need at least 2 coats (so probably costs more in the long run). I'm not using the GW stuff any more after a unit of skaven slaves turned out looking like they are covered in morning frost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/42221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/42221.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment gw stuff ever again. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/42909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/42909.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment uk?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43134.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment UK. And Future is called 'Johnsons Kleer' in the UK.... something sold wherever they sell floor cleaning stuff.

-Hans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43140.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW varnish. Don't try doing little tricks like heating it, shaking it for hours, spraying in less/more humid climates, spraying closer/further. Just dump it.

Gonads - I think you should change your comment to - "I first discovered the big, big problems with purity a year and a half ago." 'cos, to be honest, it has been utter crap for a lot longer than 18 months. I stopped using it about 5 or 6 years ago, and I'll never use it again. It's horrible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43144.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43144.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment GW matt varnish I'd ever bought was fine until they bought in the new packaging (and I have to assume a new 'mix' about 2 years ago. Unfortunately for Australia we got it 4-5 months after the rest of the world (and after it had been recalled in the rest of the world due to problems) and they sold it to us without telling us any of the problems.

Now any player who has been into the hobby for more than 6 months refuses to buy GW purity seal and everyone is happy (except the GW beancounters). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43363.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43363.page GMT RE:GW Spray Varnish Disappointment
Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 03/01/2006 7:45 PM
use Testors Dullcote...

 
Where can I pick some of this from? Hobby shops, or hardware shops?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43787.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment
-Hans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43874.page GMT RE: GW Spray Varnish Disappointment http://testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=1382

Not avail for direct sale to the UK from Testors, but at least you have an idea of exactly what you are looking for.

I also have ordered cases of the stuff on Ebay before.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/40403/43933.page GMT