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				<title>2000 Eldar Mech need help.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey all I will be in an escalation league soon that will be ending in a 2000 point tournament. I have been playing allot of other games like blood bowl and such for a while now and even before that I had been playing with my space marines or playing fantasy. So I decided that I wanted to get back into my Eldar because I have allot of them and they are mostly unpainted except for a few models that were my test models for paint jobs. I will most likely be starting a blog to follow my escalation league and painting but before that happens I would like to hammer out a fairly good list to play with then. I like running them all sorts of ways but I would like to get a good mech list down because I have so many tanks for them &gt;.&lt; I know allot of people don't like MechDar and honestly I really couldn't care less about you not liking it so please don't make a post referring to how much you are tired of them or don't like them.  Now it has been a long time since I played my Eldar so I could really use all the help I can get! So without further ado here is the list:<br /> <br /> Yriel - 155<br /> Farseer, Fortune, Runes of Warding - 100<br /> <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190<br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190<br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190<br /> <br /> <br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, Scatter Laser - 291<br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, Scatter Laser - 291<br /> 10 Storm Guardians, 2X Flamers, Warlock, Destructor, Wave Serpent, Scatter Laser - 242<br /> <br /> <br /> Fire Prism - 115<br /> Fire Prism - 115<br /> Fire Prism - 115<br /> <br /> now I still have 6 points to spare and not really sure what to do with it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Lightdrow]]></author>
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				<title>2000 Eldar Mech need help.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Those Dire Avenger Squads should only be 267 points, so that will free up some wiggle room.<br /> <br /> Since you are using Bladestorming Dire Avengers you probably want Doom.  And possibly guide as a secondary power.  This significantly ramps up your small arms fire.<br /> <br /> I'm not really sure what Yriel is doing?  He seems expensive to provide a little extra <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> support.  You could save a ton of points by switching to an 80 point autarch with a fusion gun- and you'd still benefit from master strategist.<br /> <br /> With any point left over, Start piling on holofields to your tanks.<br /> <br /> Overall, it looks like a pretty solid list.  Just be warned that the general consensus on things is that Eldar troops are over costed, and in general its more "competitive" to just take 5 man Dire Avenger squads and fill up as many tanks as you can.  That said, your army seems to be doing everything it needs to be doing for this size game.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:14:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ akaean]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ just a quick suggestion, but some antiheavy infantry stuff wouldent go amiss, terminators and space marines in general will weather the bladestorm fairly well]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:19:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ gonna go with Akaean on the yriel being in the list hes a monster but takes a hit like glass like he said go autarch IF you want the reserve boost or take another seer you can build them cheap with guide doom which will enhance your shooting due to you having no melee.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:34:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ atlas_garon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the list, although 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> squads to get the extra serpents is 100% worth it.  I run the same list only with smaller <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> units and more tanks and it does well.  I posted a few battle reports that you can find.<br /> <br /> I would go with the Autarch like everyone else is saying.  He rules and allows you to reserve everything and come in on a 3+ which is nice.<br /> <br /> I would also get some scatter lasers.  Their amazing and can open up transports with some nice side armor shots.  Not to mention <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> fear the mass <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>STR</span> 6 shots you can lay down.    <br /> <br /> @Lukyboi - Termies might weather the bladestorm, but they wont get around the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> STR7 AP2 Large blast thats going to rain down on them after the Fire Dragons pop that nice transport their hiding in =)  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:09:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 Eldar Mech need help.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ok so I have gotten some good advice here and around a few other places and I decided I wanted to spice up the list a little. So this is what I was thinking, oh and I have 4 points left over with this list:<br /> <br /> Yriel - 155 <br /> Farseer, Fortune, Runes of Warding - 100 <br /> <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190 <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190<br /> 8 Striking Scopions, Exarch, Claw, Shodowstrike, Wave serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit Stones - 285<br /> <br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 252<br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 252 <br /> 10 Storm Guardians, 2X Flamers, Warlock, Destructor, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 227<br /> <br /> <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Night Spinner - 115 <br /> <br /> This will be the first time using a night spinner so we will see how well I do with them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. So what does everyone think of this list?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:51:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lightdrow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok thanks again for the support and suggestions guys, I have another update to the list now and I have 3 points left over so what do you guys think now?<br /> <br /> Yriel - 155 <br /> Farseer, Fortune, Runes of Warding, Singing Spear - 103 <br /> <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190 <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190<br /> 8 Striking Scopions, Exarch, Claw, Wave serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit Stones - 265<br /> <br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 252<br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 262 <br /> 10 Storm Guardians, 2X Fusion Gun, Warlock, Embolden, Singing Spear, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 235<br /> <br /> <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Night Spinner - 115 ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:35:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lightdrow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bansees &gt; Scorpions in a mechanized list.  Ask yourself this-<br /> <br /> &quot;What can Scorpions kill better than Bladestorming Dire Avengers?&quot;<br /> <br /> Answer : ?????<br /> <br /> vs<br /> <br /> &quot;What can Banshees kill better than Bladestorming Dire Avengers?&quot;<br /> <br /> Answer- Units with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FnP</span>, Terminators<br /> <br /> Banshees are also capable of dealing with enemy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> units, that scorpions get slaughtered by.  the aforementioned <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> units, and fast and powerful <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> Units (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Halbreds, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> units, Genestealers, Harlequins)<br /> <br /> You get the idea...<br /> <br /> <br /> Also, get Scatter Lasers on your troop wave serpents.  Staying out of psycannon and move + disembark melta range is important, and 36 inch range is incredibly helpful.<br /> <br /> Flamers on your storm guardians.  Do you *really* want to roll to hit with melta guns on bs3.  Just getting auto hits is really nice for them.  I'd say destructor on the warlock too, as heavy flamers are nice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:51:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ akaean]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 Eldar Mech need help.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok all so I have chewed it over a bit more and as always one of the major debates comes down to Banshees VS Scorpions. I decided that banshees would be a little better for this army and have tooled it around to fit a little better. I think I have more then enough anti hoard in the list and what I really need is more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> killers and frankly I think banshees running with the farseer and Yriel some of the times works better because the new farseer can throw up Fortune and doom the squad I am attacking so I think all those rerolled power weapons should do the job better then then making a bunch of saves. I changed the storm guardians back because I think I also have enough Anti-armor in the list to deal with things. I mean With the two prisms and the 2 squads of dragons I should be able to pop any heavy armor thats driving around and I think all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>STR</span> 6 shots should deal with razorbacks just fine. I am sure Dark Eldar are probably going to wipe the floor with me but well.. I didnt say this list was amazing I am just trying to have fun with my tanks and still be a somewhat competitive list. So here is the refreshed list and hopefully nearing completion:<br /> <br /> Yriel - 155 <br /> Farseer, Fortune, Doom, Spirit Stones, Runes of Warding, Singing Spear - 148 <br /> <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190 <br /> 5 Fire Dragons, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 190 <br /> 7 howling Banshees, Wave serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit Stones - 222 <br /> <br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 252 <br /> 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch, 2x shuriken catapult, Blade Storm, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon - 252 <br /> 10 Storm Guardians, 2X Flamers, Warlock, Destructor, Singing Spear, Wave Serpent, S. Cannon, Spirit stones - 240 <br /> <br /> <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Fire Prism - 115 <br /> Night Spinner - 115<br /> <br /> oh and I am back to having 6 points left over and not sure what to do with them. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:35:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I cant think of anything in the dex for six points you could spend them on but the list looks good.]]></description>
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