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				<description><![CDATA[ How is it that the emperor is powerful enough to destroy a planet by force of will alone, but not powerful enough to heal himself?<br /> And why didn't he just squish the heretics during the seige of terra with his super awesome pyskic powers?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>How is it that the emperor is powerful enough to destroy a planet by force of will alone</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Don't buy all the hype.<br /> <br /> The Emperor may of been powerful in the Materium, but his true might only manifested in the Warp.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Golden Throne may or may not be inhibiting him recovering. <br /> <br /> As for the siege, he was busy keeping daemons from swarming through the man-made piece of the webway until he got Mally to sit in for him while he obliterated Horus. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, he's strong, but not <i>that</i> strong.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Void__Dragon wrote:</cite><br /> Don't buy all the hype.<br /> <br /> The Emperor may of been powerful in the Materium, but his true might only manifested in the Warp.</div></blockquote><br /> Not sure what that means. Surely powerful pyskers do stuff all the time?<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>BrainDeleted wrote:</cite>The Golden Throne may or may not be inhibiting him recovering. <br /> <br /> As for the siege, he was busy keeping daemons from swarming through the man-made piece of the webway until he got Mally to sit in for him while he obliterated Horus. </div></blockquote><br /> Yeah that makes sense.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:57:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Because clearly the Emperor doesnt want what is best for Humanity. He has proven this more than once in the fluff, he deliberately makes mistakes that he knows will cause unimaginable amounts of destruction and havoc over and over.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:12:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thatguy91]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>How is it that the emperor is powerful enough to destroy a planet by force of will alone, but not powerful enough to heal himself?<br /> And why didn't he just squish the heretics during the seige of terra with his super awesome pyskic powers?</div></blockquote><br /> Because he isn't as all powerful as you think he is. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thatguy91 wrote:</cite>Because clearly the Emperor doesnt want what is best for Humanity. He has proven this more than once in the fluff, he deliberately makes mistakes that he knows will cause unimaginable amounts of destruction and havoc over and over.</div></blockquote><br /> What's his Raison d'être then? Personal power? This seems unlikely.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:28:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, not at all. Im just saying that he doesnt always do what he knows to be best. Most Dieties dont, its just part of their "mystique".]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:29:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can only speak for the judeo-christian diety, but since that is what the emperor is based on it seems fitting.<br /> God is based on "your father after a hard day's work". He's vengeful, sure. But it's rough justice. Destroying cities at will seems over the top, but he's doing it to, as God sees, protect his people from the wickedness of sin etc.<br /> Point is, Gods might be asshats but there's a rationality to it.<br /> Deliberately fething up the universe seems like a strange way of protecting his flock.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:38:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ God works in mysterious ways <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. If you believe in that sorta thing. I think its just another way to get some flavour into the mix. No one likes a 100% goodie two shoes. Hence why 90% of all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> players hate the Ultra marines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:40:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>Not sure what that means. Surely powerful pyskers do stuff all the time?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They do "stuff," but not busting planets by willing it.<br /> <br /> Also, the Emperor wasn't a god, he wasn't perfect, he made a lot of mistakes, and was kind of a dick.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:49:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He's practically a corpse and was probaly too far gone to heal himself. Perhaps the damage could have been worse if it <i>hadn't</i> been for his powers.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mr Nobody wrote:</cite>He's practically a corpse and was probaly too far gone to heal himself. Perhaps the damage could have been worse if it <i>hadn't</i> been for his powers.</div></blockquote>This would certainly gel with the grimdark atmosphere of the Imperium-- even with everyone doing their absolute best to fend off extinction, they're just barely making it. The Emperor is no exception.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:12:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You have to remember that the Emperor used the last of his power to kill Horus.<br /> <br /> He couldn't heal himself because he was too weak to do so.<br /> <br /> It was either the Golden Throne or death.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the best description of him would be the most powerful man you could possibly imagine but still a man. He was flesh and blood and the Horus Heresy books (some people do not like them but I think they fill in the gaps quite nicely) mention him fighting alongside Horus and during a famous battle Horus and the Emperor fought back to back on a world against Orks and if I recall correctly it mentions Horus saving the Emperor from an Ork (a really, really big ork mind you  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ). <br /> <br /> So the Emperor possessed a mortal body and like Void Dragon mentioned that his power as a psyker was near unimaginable. The Emperor just may have been loathe to draw upon his power constantly due to the fact that he may not have been immune from the predations of the warp.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:46:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm lost.  Where has the Emperor technically destroyed a planet by his psychic powers alone? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:36:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Connor MacLeod wrote:</cite>I'm lost.  Where has the Emperor technically destroyed a planet by his psychic powers alone? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Never.<br /> <br /> The closest to that anyone has come was Magnus the Red wreaking the surface of Prospero while fighting Russ.<br /> <br /> That's not even close to obliterating the planet.<br /> <br /> I think a lot of the beliefs about the Emperor's planet busting powah stem from the wording of his attack that destroyed Horus, described as "more focused than a laser and more destructive than a supernova." People tend to take that literally, rather than acknowledging it for what it is, fancy hyperbole. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:41:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well supernovae tend to be a bit exaggerated, since a fair chunk of their energy is emitted in the form of neutrinos.  Maybe the Emperor has neutrino-beam death ray eyes. <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> The thing about "Godlike" power in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> is that while it may be true in the Warp, translating that power to real space has some definite constraints on it - which is why the Chaos Gods do not just mess up realspace arbitrarily at will.   For lack of better phrasing, a "God" needs a powerful champion (or Champions) through which that power can be channeled, and the amount of power a god can safely manifest (unless it wants to destroy its focus) will be variable.  That's why you can have all sorts of nigh omnipotent daemons that manifest in realspace end up getting beaten by the most mundane of enemies. <br /> <br /> Edit:  It can also depend on what sort of effect.  I mean I suppose triggering a warp rift (think of an upscaled D-cannon, or the warp cannons on the Blackstone Forts) might be considered highyl destructive, but its a very indirect sort of destruction, because you're simply allowing the warp to do for oyu waht you cannot do.   It would be like saying I am the god of fire because I can burn a house down by lighting a match on some very flammable materials or osmething.<br /> <br /> Double edit:  Also I'm not sure how destruction is supposed to correspond to something as nebulous and unquantified as healing anyhow - it could be something as obscure as "creation is always harder than destruction" or something.  Or if you want to get really technical, the limits on "healing" could be purely biological or thermodynamic - organic processes like cell division and replication are all well and good, but there are going to be limits to biological processes without overheating your body or something.  Which creates this bizarre mental image of Super Regenerating Emperor trying to heal himself so fast he spontaneously combusts. <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Connor MacLeod]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or the Emp could be dead, and the Golden throne just takes psykers in and spits Astronomican out. All a ploy by the bureaucratic Man, keeping the working stiffs down, using all those crazy zealots who think a dead guy is talking to them to kill anyone who oppose them. <br /> <br /> Wow, that was a joke, but man that fits right in there with all the grimdark nicely.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thatguy91 wrote:</cite>Because clearly the Emperor doesnt want what is best for Humanity. He has proven this more than once in the fluff, he deliberately makes mistakes that he knows will cause unimaginable amounts of destruction and havoc over and over.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Thatguy91 wrote:</cite>God works in mysterious ways <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. If you believe in that sorta thing. I think its just another way to get some flavour into the mix. No one likes a 100% goodie two shoes. Hence why 90% of all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> players hate the Ultra marines.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'd like to know where you've gotten this information.]]></description>
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..she (the protagonist) finds the dragon in the noctus labyrinthus and has the vision of the emperor, and how he nagivates this very narrow path that is the only way to ensure the survival of the human race, taking immense sacrifices (not specified other than mentioning the throne i think) etcetc
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</div><br /> So, from the outside he might've been an incredible bad, blind father who got on the bad side of his sons on more than one occassion.<br /> But it might also be that he did all of it deliberately.<br /> How that ties in with sentences like "magnus saw something break in his fathers eyes, hurt beyond measure from the betrayal" (or something like that) i don't know.<br /> So i do think he wants the best for humanity. Maybe he doesn't see every option, but i think hes doin what he does because he at least thinks its the best.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thatguy91 wrote:</cite>Because clearly the Emperor doesnt want what is best for Humanity. He has proven this more than once in the fluff, he deliberately makes mistakes that he knows will cause unimaginable amounts of destruction and havoc over and over.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What? No he didn't... He made mistakes because he is a Human like all of us, the most powerful Human ever maybe, but still just Human.<br /> And Humans are making mistakes ( Global Warming anyone? ).]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I'll go for a bit of Global Warming, too cold here anyway. To bad it's all lies perpetrated by some lame-o scientists to justify their jobs.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's one of the franchises greatest mysterious.<br /> <br /> Is the Emperor a twit? Or is it all part of his MASTER PLAN??????????<br /> <br /> Or maybe there is no answer, and we are all just false philosophers? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>How is it that the emperor is powerful enough to destroy a planet by force of will alone,</div></blockquote><br /> It isn't.  Never was.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The High Lords of Terra put the Emperor on life support to keep him "dead". If he had been healed right away, a second civil war would have erupted over weather or not this "healed" Emperor was infact the real thing.<br /> <br /> See Inquisitor Rule Book... page 1, I think.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>DeffDred wrote:</cite>The High Lords of Terra put the Emperor on life support to keep him "dead". If he had been healed right away, a second civil war would have erupted over weather or not this "healed" Emperor was infact the real thing.<br /> See Inquisitor Rule Book... page 1, I think.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would put my money on the side of the Healed Emperor. Cause, ya know, he wouldn't be dead, or busy pretending to do science, or whatever.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:54:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite>Yeah I'll go for a bit of Global Warming, too cold here anyway. To bad it's all lies perpetrated by some lame-o scientists to justify their jobs.</div></blockquote><br /> This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read on these boards. And that's saying a lot, because Brother Coa posts regularly.<br /> <br />  I do hope it was sarcasm.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:53:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Omegus wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite>Yeah I'll go for a bit of Global Warming, too cold here anyway. To bad it's all lies perpetrated by some lame-o scientists to justify their jobs.</div></blockquote><br /> This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read on these boards. And that's saying a lot, because Brother Coa posts regularly.<br /> <br />  I do hope it was sarcasm.</div></blockquote><br /> Does Global Warming exist? Yes, the global climate is changing. Is it because of human activity? Debatable, and frankly, I don't think it's us that's driving it forward. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:42:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Right, nevermind that there is pretty much unanimous world-wide scientific consensus that it is human-driven climate change, and since most of it has taken place since the industrial revolution it makes perfect sense. <br /> <br /> Only in America are people still debating whether climate change is real, the rest of the world is trying to figure out a solution. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:11:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Omegus wrote:</cite>Right, nevermind that there is pretty much unanimous world-wide scientific consensus that it is human-driven climate change, and since most of it has taken place since the industrial revolution it makes perfect sense. <br /> <br /> Only in America are people still debating whether climate change is real, the rest of the world is trying to figure out a solution. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> The so called 'consensus' doesn't exist.<br /> And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(334);'>WTF</span> has climate on earth to do with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> background?  <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> You know, the forum , known as Dakka, provides <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(415);'>OT</span> for such debates.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:31:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Omegus wrote:</cite>Right, nevermind that there is pretty much unanimous world-wide scientific consensus that it is human-driven climate change, and since most of it has taken place since the industrial revolution it makes perfect sense. <br /> <br /> Only in America are people still debating whether climate change is real, the rest of the world is trying to figure out a solution. </div></blockquote><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:44:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <font color='orange'>Please keep the discussion on-topic.  Thanks!</font>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:15:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Omegus wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite>Yeah I'll go for a bit of Global Warming, too cold here anyway. To bad it's all lies perpetrated by some lame-o scientists to justify their jobs.</div></blockquote><br /> This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read on these boards. And that's saying a lot, because Brother Coa posts regularly.<br /> <br />  I do hope it was sarcasm.</div></blockquote><br /> Does Global Warming exist? Yes, the global climate is changing. Is it because of human activity? Debatable, and frankly, I don't think it's us that's driving it forward. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Last week 2 US scientist proved that we are responsible for that, it was all over the news.<br /> I knew that before all of this was announced.<br /> <br /> And P.S. Global Warming was a joke, shishhh.......... <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:29:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Coa]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's like I've traveled backwards in time. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>How is it that the emperor is powerful enough to destroy a planet by force of will alone, but not powerful enough to heal himself?<br /> And why didn't he just squish the heretics during the seige of terra with his super awesome pyskic powers?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Two possibilities:<br /> 1. He doesn't feel like it.<br /> 2. Hyped up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(533);'>IoM</span> propaganda.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:35:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>n0t_u wrote:</cite><br /> Two possibilities:<br /> 1. He doesn't feel like it.<br /> 2. Hyped up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(533);'>IoM</span> propaganda.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Maybe not...rememberr how Magnus cracked planet a little with his mind?<br /> Emperor is more powerful than him, but again - I think not that powerful to destroy a planet.<br /> Maybe he can tie her in Warp or something like that...<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 18:51:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only thing that this thread has proved is that people are far too willing to listen to the media.<br /> Okay the emperor may not be able to smash a planet with his mind (I wasn't seriously suggesting this, but for the benefit of those who are cursed with a literal understanding of language I shall clarify), but he's still pretty epic. Clearly powerful enough to heal himself, you'd have thought. <br /> The only reason he wouldn't have is if he's unconscious. But then he's a being of the warp, so surely he'd still have a presence in there? ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As I said, he used the last of his power to defeat the massed powers of Chaos and kill Horus.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 21:26:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite>Clearly powerful enough to heal himself, you'd have thought. <br /> The only reason he wouldn't have is if he's unconscious. But then he's a being of the warp, so surely he'd still have a presence in there? </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't think he want's that, because if he can do that he would do it like centuries ago.<br /> His mind is now busy holing down Damons in Warp, there are rumors that he is healing Guiliman in stasis.<br /> Other than that: he want to die because he probably know about Sensei plan and Star Child theory ( he probably feel the power that people are giving him with prayers, so he will probably use them to transfer himself to Chaos Gods level when he die. This is all just <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> of course ).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:47:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Emperor was already on the "level" of a Chaos God, in the Warp.<br /> <br /> He was capable of devastating their realm before ever being interred on the Golden Throne according to them, which is a big part of the reason why they instigated the Horus Heresy.<br /> <br /> Of course, this is fluff from Collected Visions, which may be rendered null and void by the Horus Heresy series.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[  </div></blockquote><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Incorrect! China is the largest economy but that's neither here nor there, money does not make right. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:16:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>TheToastKing wrote:</cite> <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Incorrect! China is the largest economy but that's neither here nor there, money does not make right. </div></blockquote><br /> Incorrect! America is still by far the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">worlds largest economy. </a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:24:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ China hasn't taken it over yet, but if trends continue it might. Has a while to go at the moment, but it is the fastest growing one at the moment. That is if they stop doing the same strategy they have used in the past to keep prices cheap within the country to promote outsourcing there. At least that's what they were doing last time I was paying attention. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Edit: Actually looking at that graph they aren't the fastest growing either.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:33:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><br /> Incorrect! America is still by far the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">worlds largest economy. </a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> While this is true China will be grater than America by year 2025. Even less if US get hit by another global economic crisis.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This depends if China continues its economic malpractice or not. Artificially keeping they're currency weak ect, ect, exploiting the masses, ect, ect. China has large problems it still has to effectively deal with before I can see it taking a leadership position among the world's economies. Go to a major city in China then travel 20 miles outside of said City's limits. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:24:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ But, if I were Obama or Putin and if I had the option for economic question.<br /> I would build Moonbase and start mining Helium 3, free fuel for all <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:27:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We seem to have wandered a bit far afield here.<br /> <br /> Let's get back on topic - and if people want to discuss all that other stuff, well, that's what The Off Topic Forum is for...<br /> <br /> Thanks!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On a side note im sure the emperor could negate the effects of global warming (or enhance them) using psykic powers. If he was to enhance them to a point where the planet would become barren and uninhabitable with extreme temperatures, would that be considered destroying it? Think about that for a minute why dont you.. Hah!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:46:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>TheToastKing wrote:</cite> <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Incorrect! China is the largest economy but that's neither here nor there, money does not make right. </div></blockquote><br /> Incorrect! America is still by far the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">worlds largest economy. </a></div></blockquote><br /> That's in GDP nominal. PPP per capita it's USA 15trillion China 11trillion.<br /> nominal GDP is basically GDP when you simply convert it into US dollers.<br /> GDP PPP is GDP that takes into account the whacky things that currancy does and is basically a much more realistic measure of economic strength.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We must bear in mind a few important things about That Black Day when Our Emperor (Bless His Most Divine Light) made the Ultimate Sacrifice for His Imperium.<br /> <br /> First:  The Horus Heresy was a massive assault upon Holy Terra, utilizing not only the resources of the Traitor Legions and their associated Titan Legions and other troops, but also demonic incursions from the Warp.  This assault was an opportunity for the Ruinous Powers to remove the Emperor once and for all, and so they sent Demons to assist their assault.  It is reasonable to assume that the Emperor's psychic might was occupied Interdicting the bulk of the demonic forces and preventing them from entering the Materium.<br /> <br /> Second: Horus was a powerful being in his own right, and was enhanced by the Ruinous Powers.  The fight with Horus was a close one, which the Emperor barely survived.  Likely they sparred, not mearely with Storm Shield and Power Sword, but with psychic powers the fury of which could not be withstood by onlookers.  I imagine those sacred few who accompanied the Emperor on His last assault were torn apart in the psychic tumult that parked that final battle as lances of psychic power flew haphazardly.<br /> <br /> Third:  The Astronomicon is a psychic beacon of such incomprehensible power that it can be seen in the immaterium across <i>the vastness of the galaxy</i>.  This is no mean feat, and should the Emperor's attention falter, even for a moment, those countless vessels that tread the Void keeping the Empire's vast engines of war and commerce would be lost.  For that reason, the Emperor remains focused on projecting His Holy Light, even unto the bitterest end for the Empire He has sacrificed so much for.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>TheToastKing wrote:</cite> <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Incorrect! China is the largest economy but that's neither here nor there, money does not make right. </div></blockquote><br /> Incorrect! America is still by far the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">worlds largest economy. </a></div></blockquote><br /> That's in GDP nominal. PPP per capita it's USA 15trillion China 11trillion.<br /> nominal GDP is basically GDP when you simply convert it into US dollers.<br /> GDP PPP is GDP that takes into account the whacky things that currancy does and is basically a much more realistic measure of economic strength.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Fair dos, I was kind of aware there was a difference but I didn't know which was better or what, really. Anyway, the USA is still the world's largest economy, to top things off. In the future China may overtake it in these terms, but it wont happen likely for a good few years yet. Apologies for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span>-rail, that's two mod warnings now, just stop this. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nagashek wrote:</cite>We must bear in mind a few important things about That Black Day when Our Emperor (Bless His Most Divine Light) made the Ultimate Sacrifice for His Imperium.<br /> <br /> First:  The Horus Heresy was a massive assault upon Holy Terra, utilizing not only the resources of the Traitor Legions and their associated Titan Legions and other troops, but also demonic incursions from the Warp.  This assault was an opportunity for the Ruinous Powers to remove the Emperor once and for all, and so they sent Demons to assist their assault.  It is reasonable to assume that the Emperor's psychic might was occupied Interdicting the bulk of the demonic forces and preventing them from entering the Materium.<br /> <br /> Second: Horus was a powerful being in his own right, and was enhanced by the Ruinous Powers.  The fight with Horus was a close one, which the Emperor barely survived.  Likely they sparred, not mearely with Storm Shield and Power Sword, but with psychic powers the fury of which could not be withstood by onlookers.  I imagine those sacred few who accompanied the Emperor on His last assault were torn apart in the psychic tumult that parked that final battle as lances of psychic power flew haphazardly.<br /> <br /> Third:  The Astronomicon is a psychic beacon of such incomprehensible power that it can be seen in the immaterium across <i>the vastness of the galaxy</i>.  This is no mean feat, and should the Emperor's attention falter, even for a moment, those countless vessels that tread the Void keeping the Empire's vast engines of war and commerce would be lost.  For that reason, the Emperor remains focused on projecting His Holy Light, even unto the bitterest end for the Empire He has sacrificed so much for.</div></blockquote><br /> You know what points one and two of this post have done? They've made me really want to see the end battle of the Horus Heresy written properly in all its glory. I wonder which author will receive the honor of writing this last confrontation? Or Sanguinus's battle at the Eternity Gate. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Joey wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>TheToastKing wrote:</cite> <blockquote><div><cite>iproxtaco wrote:</cite><br /> I don't live in America, nor have I ever been there but OK. Like 1hadhq has said, this isn't the place, and your so called "consensus" doesn't exist, considering you undermined that part of your argument within the same post. There's unanimous world-wide consensus, except for America, the worlds largest economy. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Incorrect! China is the largest economy but that's neither here nor there, money does not make right. </div></blockquote><br /> Incorrect! America is still by far the <a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/economy/world_economies_gdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">worlds largest economy. </a></div></blockquote><br /> That's in GDP nominal. PPP per capita it's USA 15trillion China 11trillion.<br /> nominal GDP is basically GDP when you simply convert it into US dollers.<br /> GDP PPP is GDP that takes into account the whacky things that currancy does and is basically a much more realistic measure of economic strength.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Fair dos, I was kind of aware there was a difference but I didn't know which was better or what, really. Anyway, the USA is still the world's largest economy, to top things off. In the future China may overtake it in these terms, but it wont happen likely for a good few years yet. Apologies for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span>-rail, that's two mod warnings now, just stop this. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Nagashek wrote:</cite>We must bear in mind a few important things about That Black Day when Our Emperor (Bless His Most Divine Light) made the Ultimate Sacrifice for His Imperium.<br /> <br /> First:  The Horus Heresy was a massive assault upon Holy Terra, utilizing not only the resources of the Traitor Legions and their associated Titan Legions and other troops, but also demonic incursions from the Warp.  This assault was an opportunity for the Ruinous Powers to remove the Emperor once and for all, and so they sent Demons to assist their assault.  It is reasonable to assume that the Emperor's psychic might was occupied Interdicting the bulk of the demonic forces and preventing them from entering the Materium.<br /> <br /> Second: Horus was a powerful being in his own right, and was enhanced by the Ruinous Powers.  The fight with Horus was a close one, which the Emperor barely survived.  Likely they sparred, not mearely with Storm Shield and Power Sword, but with psychic powers the fury of which could not be withstood by onlookers.  I imagine those sacred few who accompanied the Emperor on His last assault were torn apart in the psychic tumult that parked that final battle as lances of psychic power flew haphazardly.<br /> <br /> Third:  The Astronomicon is a psychic beacon of such incomprehensible power that it can be seen in the immaterium across <i>the vastness of the galaxy</i>.  This is no mean feat, and should the Emperor's attention falter, even for a moment, those countless vessels that tread the Void keeping the Empire's vast engines of war and commerce would be lost.  For that reason, the Emperor remains focused on projecting His Holy Light, even unto the bitterest end for the Empire He has sacrificed so much for.</div></blockquote><br /> You know what points one and two of this post have done? They've made me really want to see the end battle of the Horus Heresy written properly in all its glory. I wonder which author will receive the honor of writing this last confrontation? Or Sanguinus's battle at the Eternity Gate. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Mat Ward, and the Emperor will end up being an Ultramarine]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, unfortunately the Emperor was a sentimental old sod and since he couldn't really bring himself to kill Horus initially, Horus just beat the crap out of him beyond even his godlike abilities of healing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Oct 2011 05:28:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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