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The chiefton has a stormbanner and no ward save... i know, i know.. but I put him in the bell unit that is 5 wide (stormvermin) and since i have a fangleader, musician, and banner... my chiefton sits in the 2nd row. I only activate this baby when i am facing a better gunline than me/i don't get first turn

I know i don't have clanrats... I don't care . Slaves do pretty much everything clan rats do, i have a 18" leadership bubble, and engineers in every squad (until right before CC.... then they shoot their shiny stuff and redirect). We don't play blood and glory.... in that case i would use a list of one unit of clan rats, one unit of stormvermin and three slaves.

I have a very expensive warlord.... yes he could be a target... but i have so many, my opponents tend to not care about him until they find out he has a Fellblade.... by then I should have my gutter runners/rat darts in position to save him from cannon fire.

Lord: 728
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Grey seer: 470
Screaming bell
skalm

Warlord: 258
shield,heavy armour
Rat Ogre Bonebreaker
Fellblade

Hero: 322

Chiefton: 122
BSB - Stormbanner
halbred

Warlock engineer: 95
Lvl 1 wizard
doomrocket

Warlock engineer: 65
Brass orb

warlock engineer: 40
deathglobe

Core: 814

49 Slaves: 124.5
musician, shields

49 Slaves: 124.5
musician, shields

49 Slaves: 124.5
musician, shields

49 Slaves: 124.5
musician, shields

29 Storm Vermin: 228
standard bearer, musician
Fangleader
X1 PWM: 65

Rat darts x 1: 23

Special: 396

5 Rat Ogres: 216
2 packmasters

5 Gutter ruuners: 90
slings, poison

5 Gutter ruuners: 90
slings, poison

Rare: 740 3000

HPA x 2: 470

WLC x 3: 270

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- Why run the BSB with the Stormbanner if your Stormvermin don't have a magic standard of their own? Give them the banner, and give him some protection.

- Slaves with shields doesn't work out against anything S4 or more, and even then it's a close call. I assume you got them all from the Island of Blood set so they all come with shields? I'd get one box of Clanrats and make the front rank all shield-less, and call it a day.

- Beyond that, it looks solid. The Fellblade is risky buisness, and with limited payoff, but it can work. I'd consider a Warpfire Thrower instead of a Mortar, and I'd bulk up those Stormvermin. Oh, and get a Master-bred Rat Ogre, to take the challenges your super-fragile Warlord doesn't want to, and get more Packmasters, so the unit isn't Stupid after a volley of arrows.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/408504/3535977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/408504/3535977.page GMT