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				<title>First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I wrote this as sort of a rough draft for a counter <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> as i will be playing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> player exclusively for a few months. I am aiming at making it gunline due to the limited models i have on hand and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> wreck everything in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. So the following is my first crack at it and if you see anything you would alter on the models please let me know. I am very aware different models would make life easier but they are in the mail or not ordered yet  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Chaos Lord 170<br /> Terminator Armor, Mark of Nurgle, Daemon Weapon, Combi Plasma gun<br /> <br /> Chosen Chaos Space Marines 165<br /> 5 Chosen, 5 Plasma guns<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad 150<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> includ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> with powerfist and combi plasma gun, 2 plasma guns<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad 150<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> includ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> with powerfist and combi plasma gun, 2 plasma guns<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad 150<br /> 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> includ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> with powerfist and combi plasma gun, 2 plasma guns<br /> <br /> Raptor Sqaud 170<br /> 5 Raptors including <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> with pair of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, 2 Plasma Guns<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 14:23:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Killadoza]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not that I have a great amount of experience but...<br /> <br /> Against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> youre <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> teams of 5 will get torn apart without much trouble...<br /> Chaos Lord looks good but will get torn apart (even with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>) from wieght of fire<br /> Chosen sounds excellent, they'll do well against the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> especcially at close range firing - not much will survive a round of firing<br /> <br /> No experience playing raptors I'm afraid but always felt like trying  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Go for it but beware that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> all have stormbolters and can fire at you while on the run ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:59:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typhon the Storm Giant]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In general 5th edition really encourages you to put as many of your infantry in transports as possible.  It also encourages almost every army to max out their heavy support choices.  Personally I think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> have very good counters to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> but you're stuck with limited options with your current model choice.<br /> <br /> If you are looking for a nurgled chaos lord, stick with typhus... Might as well get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> and nifty psychic powers to boot.  Better yet take a jump packed, slaanesh <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(204);'>CL</span> with a daemon weapon.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(74);'>Init</span> 5 helps a ton against non halberd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>Gk</span>.<br /> <br /> 5x Plasma and 5x melta chosen are great.<br /> <br /> 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> won't ever get the chance to use their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>.  5 man squads can't take an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> and your number of special weapons is messed up too.  Not to mention your point cost is off.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:18:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CageUF]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads should be 155 thank you for pointing that out.  The original plan was to face an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> opponant and then he switched to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>. so until i get more models im stuck in this lousy position of lacking helpful models. also i am combining 2 of the five man squads to be 230 pt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> squad, 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> including <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> with combi plasma gun and powerist. What would be a good Icon ? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:35:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Killadoza]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You're still off on your special weapon per squad<br /> <br /> 5 - 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad = 1 special weapon (flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, melta)<br /> <br /> 10 - 20 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squad = 1 special weapon, and 1 heavy or special.<br /> <br /> -----------------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> Icon wise - Basic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads should go for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span>. Since they dont have the awesome morale rules of their loyalist counterparts, they need something to help keep them from going off the board.<br /> <br /> As mentioned above, if you want a Nurgle <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, get Typhus.<br /> <br /> If your friend has indeed switched from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>, then you are going to want 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span> Chosen. If you dont have the models <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>WYSIWYG</span>, im pretty sure your oppoenent will let you proxy melta as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>.<br /> <br /> @CageUF, he meant <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> as Aspiring Champion, not Autocannon]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:50:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Commissar Typhus]]></author>
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				<title>First shot at CSM list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Just to say you may be lacking models but assuming he is your friend, im sure he will let you substitute your models? As long as your clear as to what models are what im sure he wont mind mate.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:58:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Signature]]></author>
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