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Allot of it is based on sense but some of it is just anecdotal. Any recommendations are welcome.

Concepts:
5 man biker squads are the cheapest way to force 2 kills per of check. The marginal coat of another kill is 7 more bikers.
Battlewagons absorb fire well but atract allot of attention. If I use them just for defrolling tanks I can handle av14. If I make them scoring they're even better. And if I only spend 40 pts to do so that's a bonus. I'd like to use nobz but they will cost me a mek.
TL rokkits are great in many ways.
Lootas are better

1500

Wazdakka 180
Big mek kff 85

10 grots runtherder 40
10 grots runtherder 40
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140

10 lootas 150
10 lootas 150
10 lootas 150

Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates. 140
Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates. 140

My fear is 1.5 games are always with a teammate and this May be a had list to team with.

2000

Wazdakka 180
Big mek kff 85

10 grots runtherder 40
10 grots runtherder 40
10 grots runtherder 40
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140
5 warbikers Nob bosspole 140

10 lootas 150
10 lootas 150
10 lootas 150

3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105
3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105
3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105

Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates. 140
Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates. 140
Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates. 140

I really like this one. Pick anything to shoot and their are 3 of them. Kill 3 wagons 9 buggies and 30 lootas and now your ehicles are safe. Kill 15 bikers and 30 lootas and now your infantry is safe. Geuss what 30 Grots still count as scoring.


2500
Wazdakka 180
Big mek kff 85

10 grots runtherder 40
10 grots runtherder 40
10 grots runtherder 40
5 warbikers Nob bosspole PowerKlaw 175
5 warbikers Nob bosspole PowerKlaw 175
5 warbikers Nob bosspole PowerKlaw 175

15  lootas 225
15  lootas 225
15  lootas 225

3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105
3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105
3 Warbuggies TL rokkits 105

Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates killkannon 200
Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates killkannon 200
Battlewagon deffrolla big shoota ard case armor plates killkannon 200

Maxed lootas. 3 kill kannons. Powerklaws on bikers. I'm ready for any extra troops you may bring.

So what you think. Can I improve the entire line in any way?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3620593.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3620593.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3622717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3622717.page GMT PK's to your nobs on the biker squads. I'd probably drop one squad of lootas to achieve this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3622818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3622818.page GMT Having three units nets me 2 av12 kills. If I drop one my anti mech capability drops and they spend more time tied up va mech]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3623063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/413521/3623063.page GMT