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Foot Necrons 1750

DarkCorsair — GMT

Let's go through some list building thoughts, shall we? I've tried to display what my thought process was as I made this list, and typed while it was being drawn up.

So to start off the list, I want to use Doomsday Arks. 2 of them seems good.

Doomsday Ark - 175
Doomsday Ark - 175

Now we need our meat and potatoes that can put out some midfield AI fire and squat on objectives. 9x Warriors + 1x Tremorstave Cryptek will get us 1 glance at 24" and 2 at 12", as well us making the vehicle have a chance to immobilize itself if it moves next turn. It's also annoying to infantry, making them slower. We'll take three of those units.

9x Warriors w/ Tremorstave Cryptek - 143
9x Warriors w/ Tremorstave Cryptek - 143
9x Warriors w/ Tremorstave Cryptek - 143

Now we can increase the tremorstave efficiency against vehicles and make them kill more infantry. Also, I just want to run a C'tan. So let's make him also be able to lend some shooting power to the list.

C'tan w/ Writing Worldscape and Pyreshards - 235

Some solar pulses in the list would be nice. We can take two, and stick the solar pulses into the warrior squads, which we can do and still have the tremorstaves by having 2 royal courts.

2x Lance/Pulse Crypteks - 110

So, where do we sit now on points?
1124. Ouch. Let's drop 1 Solar Pulse, so then we don't have to get another HQ, saving us some points here in a minute. We also will need to drop a tremorstave, but we'll get some back with what I have planned.

So, with these drops we're now at 1039. Sounds a little better.
Adding some more 24" range firepower? Sounds good to me.

9x Warriors w/ Tremorstave Cryptek - 143
5x Immortals w/ Tesla and Tremorstave Cryptek - 115

This sets us at a total of 1297...not shabby. Since we're going to 1750, what can we add? Anti tank and counter-assault. We also need an HQ. Let's start with the AT. Scarabs come with the warrior box, so we'll use those. A squad of 6 against most vehicles that moved combat speed will destroy it 5 times over, and they will still overkill a land raider. With all the tremorstaves and glancing that's going on, you've got a pretty good chance of auto-hitting some immobilized or stunned vehicles. For 90 points, we'll take two.

6x Scarabs - 90
6x Scarabs - 90

Total so far - 1477. We're nearing the points cap here. So let's grab an HQ and then see what we have left to work with.
The HQ has to be able to take a royal court, so that narrows it down some. Imotekh is too costly, and hurts the list more than he helps. So we're left with the generic Overlord, Zahndrekh, Trazyn, and Anrakyr. Zahndrekh brings the most to the list, so we'll take him, and then an annihilation barge because it's cheap.

Nemesor Zahndrekh - 185
Annihilation Barge - 90

So now let's add it all up...1752. Darn. Since this is a tournament list, we can't be 2 points over.
Drop a warrior from the Solar Pulse Squad, and add in a seismic crucible.

The final list:

Nemesor Zahndrekh - 185
Royal Court - 185
C1 - Eldritch Lance and Solar Pulse
C2 - Tremorstave and Seismic Crucible
C3 - Tremorstave
C4 - Tremorstave
C5 - Tremorstave

C'tan w/ Writhing Worldscape and Pyreshards - 235

8x Necron Warriors - 104 (C1)
9x Necron Warriors - 117 (C2)
9x Necron Warriors - 117 (C3)
9x Necron Warriors - 117 (C4)
5x Immortals w/ Tesla - 85 (C5)

6x Scarabs - 90
6x Scarabs - 90

Annihilation Barge - 90
Doomsday Ark - 175
Doomsday Ark - 175

Total - 1749

Thoughts on the final list?

Foot Necrons 1750

Bylak — GMT

With no Res Orb or Ark support I'd be concerned about so many small squads of Warriors getting torn up. Maybe switch them up for Immortals, or put them into larger groups at least?

Foot Necrons 1750

DarkCorsair — GMT

Bylak wrote:With no Res Orb or Ark support I'd be concerned about so many small squads of Warriors getting torn up. Maybe switch them up for Immortals, or put them into larger groups at least?

Zahndrekh has a Res Orb.

Ghost Arks look nice, but to do that I'd have to drop the Doomsday Arks due to model constraints. Do you think it's worth it?

Foot Necrons 1750

Bylak — GMT

DarkCorsair wrote:
Bylak wrote:With no Res Orb or Ark support I'd be concerned about so many small squads of Warriors getting torn up. Maybe switch them up for Immortals, or put them into larger groups at least?

Zahndrekh has a Res Orb.

Ghost Arks look nice, but to do that I'd have to drop the Doomsday Arks due to model constraints. Do you think it's worth it?

The rules for Orbs though state that "the bearer of the resurrection orb (and his unit) pass Reanimation Protocols rolls on 4+" (pg. 82). So at best you're helping one unit at a time with the Orb. To me it makes more sense to either have larger groups of Warriors with a Lord and Res Orb plus Scythe or Warrior groups made up of 9 with a Cryptek riding around in Ghost Arks.

If it comes down to Doomsday Arks or Ghost Arks (and since you started your list with Doomsday Arks I'm assuming you're keen on using Doomsday Arks =)) it might be worth some consideration going with groups of Immortals instead of Warriors. You could have 26 Immortals in your army as opposed to 35 Warriors, which I think still fits your theme of foot slogging Necrons.

Foot Necrons 1750

DarkCorsair — GMT

Bylak wrote:

The rules for Orbs though state that "the bearer of the resurrection orb (and his unit) pass Reanimation Protocols rolls on 4+" (pg. 82). So at best you're helping one unit at a time with the Orb. To me it makes more sense to either have larger groups of Warriors with a Lord and Res Orb plus Scythe or Warrior groups made up of 9 with a Cryptek riding around in Ghost Arks.

My main point was that I do have atleast one res orb. More would certainly help, though. Ghost Arks are also really beginning to grow on my because of the extra guass shots.

Bylak wrote:
If it comes down to Doomsday Arks or Ghost Arks (and since you started your list with Doomsday Arks I'm assuming you're keen on using Doomsday Arks =)) it might be worth some consideration going with groups of Immortals instead of Warriors. You could have 26 Immortals in your army as opposed to 35 Warriors, which I think still fits your theme of foot slogging Necrons.

Unfortunately, I'm running the warriors because I have the models already. Also, warriors are much better at armor suppression, which this list really needs against mech armies.

How about dropping Zahndrekh, a scarab from each unit, and the Annihilation Barge, and taking -

Phaeron w/ Res Orb - 140
Phaeron w/ Res Orb - 140

And then replacing a tremorstave cryptek for:

Cryptek w/ Lance/Solar Pulse - 55

I'm not really liking the revision that much though tbh...

Foot Necrons 1750

Bylak — GMT

Ah, makes a little more sense then if you already have the Warrior models, you're making lists like I am at the moment! You should see what my short term 1500 points looks like until I get another $150 to "fix" it, it's an interesting list <.<

Again, I was thinking less about changing up your HQ and more about changing up your Cryptek choices.

Foot Necrons 1750

Sasori — GMT

The Main issue with this list, is that a bunch of small footslogging warriors have little defense against assaults and shooting. With only a 4+ save now, there are plenty of weapons that are going to outright deny them their saves. Wiping out 9 warriors so they don't get their RP is a fairly easy thing to do.

If you want to Footslog them, I think you are best with a fully kitted out 20 man squad, with all the trimmings. A ghost Ark to support them, Overlord with Phaeron/mss/WS/Weave PS and a lord with an Orb/WS/MSS. Throw in a Cryptek with Transmog and Seismic crucible, and you've got a squad that is very hard to kill.

Reecius has done a few battle reports with squads like that, and they have proved super effective.

Two of those are rock solid troop choices. All you need after that is a small 5 man squad to sit in reserve and walk onto a rear objective, and to hold two pulses.

Next, I'd grab two solar pulse Teks, as they will help your army survive to get into position and starting blasting your foes into oblivion.

I'd also say the C'tan gimmick with WW and the Tremorstave is really not that effective. I think you are better spending your points elsewhere, for something you can count on more reliably.

I Personally like the DD Ark, and have had great luck with them. Your HS slot looks a lot like mine.

Re:Foot Necrons 1750

DarkCorsair — GMT

Phaeron w/ Orb and Warscythe - 150
Phaeron w/ Orb and Warscythe - 150
C'tan w/ Pyreshards and Moulder of Worlds - 225
7x Immortals + 1x Lance/Pulse Cryptek - 174
7x Immortals + 1x Lance/Pulse Cryptek - 174
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154
5x Immortals w/ Tesla - 85
5x Scarabs - 75
5x Scarabs - 75
Doomsday Ark - 175

Total - 1745

Re:Foot Necrons 1750

JGrand — GMT

Phaeron w/ Orb and Warscythe - 150
Phaeron w/ Orb and Warscythe - 150

I don't see much of a need for Phaeron or Orbs here. Why not just take Tesla and not worry about it? Same with the orb. Just take more Immortals with squads that are that small.

C'tan w/ Pyreshards and Moulder of Worlds - 225

Don't really see the point of this at all. In terms of a counter assault unit, you could do way better. C'tan is only worth it for Writhing Worldscape and even then you have to sell out to that build to make the most out of it. I'd drop this.

7x Immortals + 1x Lance/Pulse Cryptek - 174
7x Immortals + 1x Lance/Pulse Cryptek - 174
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154
7x Immortals + 1x Lance Cryptek - 154

I guess my main problem here is why bother with the single lance shot in anti infantry units?

5x Immortals w/ Tesla - 85

If this is an objective grabber why not just take Warriors and hide them in reserve?

5x Scarabs - 75
5x Scarabs - 75

Small numbers without Spyders...not a great idea.

Doomsday Ark - 175

Don't really get the lone vehicle.

If you want to fix the list up a bit and keep the core, I would drop the stuff on the Overlords for 100 points, the C'tan for 225, 1 squad of 7 and 1 of 5 Immortals for 204, and the Doomsday Ark for 175. Grab 2 min Warrior squads to hide in reserve for objectives, maybe an Orb on a Lord to run with 3 Lance-teks, and up the Scarabs to 10 each. You then have about 400 points. For counter attack I'd go with Wraiths. I'd also recommend Annihilation Barges for a versatile unit.