<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Astorath the grim."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Astorath the grim. DC in my army is astorath worth the buy? Or would you just take lemartes and stick a different HQ in?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3687841.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3687841.page GMT Astorath the grim. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688027.page GMT Astorath the grim. DC which I'm not sure how to make them look like normal assault marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688098.page GMT Astorath the grim.
Gharron wrote:Well, I've been reading the other posts I had on that subject and I WOULD run assault marines but I've run into two problems. I need 20 assault marines to get to the thirty everyone suggested, and I have 10 DC which I'm not sure how to make them look like normal assault marines.


Well, you could always use them as Vanguard Veterans. in the blood angels codex, vanguard are actually worth their points. 2 5 man squads of vanguard, each kitted with jump packs, and an extra thunder hammer, could prove quite effective in an army. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688103.page GMT Astorath the grim. DC change? I just posted over on the modeling one on a conversion and I would rather NOT use the DC if I can avoid it tbh but I'm low on funds and I have half of the army already done but every which way I turn it's either ordering new bits or spending right at 140 dollars for the extra 20 marines. Where would you suggest getting the hammers? I have an extra long fangs kit sitting around the house but everything would seem so jumbled...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3688119.page GMT Astorath the grim.
Astorath is a pretty sounds HQ. I really like him. Especially when his running around with 15 DC Lol.

The best part is, he's pretty much made to support DC, so yeah I'd definitely stick with him ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3689262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3689262.page GMT Re:Astorath the grim. DC. They can't capture objectives, but that is just wasting them: DC are there to contest objectives. Think of DC as the guys that kick down the doors that the other Space Marines don't want to.

The way to use them properly would be to determine what objective your opponent is sitting on, and then send DC in to tangle with those guys. And I'd use Lemartes with DC. Mephiston otherwise.

Just make sure you have a transport for DC. A Land Raider Redeemer would be my pick. Put DC into it, then roll it up the battlefield towards the objective that you want to contest, and park it. Then let DC charge out and cause some mayhem.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3689470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3689470.page GMT Astorath the grim.
I am not sure why you would take astorath with 15 dc. Remember, without wargear, dc are not worlds and away more powerful than your typical meq. The biggest benefit from astorath (as opposed to a generic chap/reclusiarch) is that he let's you take more than one unit of dc. But splitting 15 dc between two units would radically reduce their effectiveness. Ideally, I would want 10+ in each squad. Treat them almost like a marine blob, mixing in wargear to taste.

Be sure to give them a chaplain of some sort in the squad, because mathhammer will show you that the rerolls will be more cost effective than more bodies. This is another way astorath loses attractiveness, because as he has a jp, your only means of transporting them to manage the black rage would be in a raven. Alternatively, with a generic chaplain you still get rerolls but can put them in a drop pod, rhino, or landraider.

Just some food for thought. Astorath is cool and fluffy but unless you are running an all out dc theme list (I cannot recommend dc dreads enough, especially in pods) he doesn't give you enough for the high cost.

Let us know if your mileage varies ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690079.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690079.page GMT Astorath the grim. tac marines and 10 dc but only 10 assault marines and I keep going back and forth on having DC or not. I have a raven atm and I plan on a furioso and dropping that in with lemartes and a DC squad while having 20 tac marines two baal preds and assorted rhinos/razorbacks pull up for objectives while the enemy is stuck dealing with a god awful amount of damage and for that matter bodies at that stage just sounds like a lot of fun to me =) but I'm a TOTAL noob in the way of the tabletop game and I've been watching youtube and see that assault squad - rhinos - mephiston is a winning combo but, as I said I just wanted to get the most out the battleforces I purchased because money is tight atm =)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690712.page GMT Re:Astorath the grim.
10x DC & Lemartes in a LR Crusader.
10x Tac Marines in a Rhino
10x Tac Marines in a Rhino
5x Assault Marines in a Razorback
5x Assault marines in a Razorback
2x Baal Predators
1x Dreadnought in a Stormraven
1x Mephiston hiding behind the transports

1. Send the LR into the enemy and wait until you see a soft spot. Then open the doors and let DC do their thing.
2. Move your transports toward objectives, with Mephiston sneaking around out of direct sight to any big guns.
3. Drop that Dreadnought into a soft spot, maybe near whatever DC is tearing up.
4. Continue to move transports toward objectives, then let Mephiston turn into a murder-machine when he gets within 24" of anything that doesn't have invulnerable saves.

Given what you've said you already own, I think you've already got this setup. If any purchases are required, it'll only be the LR, which you can pick up for pretty cheap on the swap shop or eBay. And this build will be pretty strong. I don't know if it'll win any tournaments, but then I don't think BA win many tournaments nowadays anyway. But in casual/semi-competitive play, this is a very strong list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690860.page GMT Re:Astorath the grim. afaik) go in a LRC with the DC because of his jump pack.

Run the Baals naked – that way you can keep them mobile instead of having to decide between firing the sponsons and maneuvering.

Remember that 5 Assault Marines in a RB can still take a special weapon. Melta are always popular.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3690938.page GMT Astorath the grim. tac marines were a nono for BA?


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Also in this list would a librarian or an un-named chaplain in say terminator armor do me any better? Or is lemartes just a BA with DC? How would a set of terminators do for me? And can I stick the DC and lemartes in with the storm raven?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3691109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3691109.page GMT Re:Astorath the grim.
Mephiston you can pick up for very cheap second-hand.

And Tac marines aren't forbidden, it's just that assault marines play to the BA strengths much better. However, if Tac marines are what you've got, then work with that. However, if you just pick up some extra arm bits with weapons from eBay, you can easily turn those Tac marines into assault marines for very cheap. Like, maybe ten bucks.

And put some Lascannons on those Rhinos. And as above, I would make sure you are taking Melta with the combat squads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3691929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3691929.page GMT Astorath the grim. DC into assault marines and buying 10 more. That'll leave me with about 130 dollars to play with then going straight for some troop choices a furioso and maybe a couple razorbacks? and dante-sanguinary guard? Who knows hopefully I'll be back with some great news with all of the help you guys have provided! And one last question how many HQ's can you have in one game my GF just got me mephiston so can I have him and dante or is that evn worth the buy? and would a land raider storm raven do me any good like as a combo and for the amount of points both will cost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3692080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3692080.page GMT Astorath the grim. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3697194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/417372/3697194.page GMT Astorath the grim. lol so I'm thinking about dropping out the DC and buying a few more assault squads instead. How do close combat termies and a land raider fair?


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I even bought lemartes to go with the DC and I was going to use my furioso as DC but I'm not really sure at all what I need now =[
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