<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?
For friendly games, I try to build a 1750pts freebooter army that includes all 3 bosses (Snikrot, Zagstruk & Badrukk).

Of course, I want to make it still workable, not really competitive, but that can at least still achieve something.

But then, I come to the following problem : is there any viable build / setup with Flashgitz ? Put them in a trukk, a BW, a Looted WAgon ?
On the field screened by Grots or Boyz ?

I am still new in 40K but so far I understand that Flash Gits are overpriced for what they bring.
I agree but since this list is for friendly games, let's ignore this fault in this topic
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If you ever got an effective army with flash gitz , pls tell me - thx
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The real problem is that both Snikrot and Zagstruk come in from reserve. Zagstruk must and Snikrot really should.

Try to build some lilst and then we could give you our comments.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3701892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3701892.page GMT Re:Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?
ok then, so here is a list suggestion :

HQ
- WarBoss (PK/BP/Armor/Cybork) with the kommandos – 105pt
- BigMek (KFF) in a BW with the shoota boyz– 85pt

Elite
- 10 Kommandos ( incl. 2 burnas) + Boss Snikrot – 215pts
- 5 Lootas - 75pts
- 5 Lootas - 75pts

Troops
- 10 slugga boys (incl. Nob PK/BP) - 100 pts
in a Trukk (reinforced ram) – 40 pts

- 18 shoota boys (incl. Nob PK/BP) -148 pts

Heavy Support
- 5 Flashgitz (all options : more dakka / shoota/ -1 AP + 3 ammo runt) – 215pts
with Captain Badrukk - 135pts
- 1 BW (Deff rolla/armor plate/grots rigger/1x Bshoota) – 130pts
- 1 BW (Deff rolla/armor plate/grots rigger/1x Bshoota) – 130pts


Fast
- 10 Stormboyz + Boss Zagstruck – 205pts
- 1 Deffkopta (TW rokkit) - 45pts
- 1 Deffkopta (TW rokkit) - 45pts

Total 1748pts

I try a hammer & anvil tactic

I move the 2 BW (one with boyz, one with FG+BMek) slowly forward the opponent so the Boys and the FG inside can still shoot at turn 1 and 2.
To protect them : KFF + distraction (Koptas & lootas)

Once the kommandos and/or the stormboys get out of reserve, I move them behind the enemy lines (or at the flank) and attack. I also rush the BW + disembark the shootas boyz + waaghh (if needed) on the same turn. If needed, I disembark the FG first ( cause they won't go on CC)

As for the trukk, either it goes with the BW and gives support for the main attack, or it can also help for the distraction by rushing and getting as close to the opponent as possible ( and disembarking) at first turn, since it is essential that the 2 BW survive until Snikrot or zagsturk come out of reserve.

only 30 boyz (BW + trukk) seems quite small for the front attack, but if you add the kommandos + the stormboys, it makes close to 50/60 models attacking in CC, plus 2 charging BW.

what do you think ?

//EDIT : error on the total cost, so i changed the list a little bit
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Looks like it woulkd be a very fun list to play.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3704316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3704316.page GMT Re:Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?
Yes the koptas are 2 units of 1, just like the lootas are 2 units of 5.
I will update the list to clarify that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3704372.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3704372.page GMT Re:Viable Ork build with flash gitz ? BW with 4 rokkitz and def rolla
10 flash gitz fully kitted out with a painboy and 3 ammo runtz
bigmek with kustom field with either a burna or klaw.
I setup this battlewagon in the middle of my deployment normally with shoota boyz swarming around.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3705188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3705188.page GMT Re:Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?
Dartorn wrote:A unit I like to run:
BW with 4 rokkitz and def rolla
10 flash gitz fully kitted out with a painboy and 3 ammo runtz
bigmek with kustom field with either a burna or klaw.
I setup this battlewagon in the middle of my deployment normally with shoota boyz swarming around.


I see the point :
My usual fear is that Gitz without the Kaptain may easily fail any Ld test and fall back.
But making them 10-man-2-wound strong mob + FNP/cybork + in BW + KFF makes it very very difficult to force a Ld test.
Moreover, even if they fail, they can still shoot during fall back move (that's ok since it is a shooty unit not a CC unit), and since they probably will be still over 50% alive, they still can regroup later.

I will see if i can make such unit in my list, though I don't think there is enough points with the kaptain + Snikrot and Zagstruk included.
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Now I am not sure if you really can do a 10 man unit as its alot of points and you are trying to get some other expensive stuff in there. Just stick to around 6-7 maybe even 8 and should be good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3710422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3710422.page GMT Re:Viable Ork build with flash gitz ?
HQ
- BigMek (KFF) in a BW with the Gitz– 85pt

Elite
- 10 Kommandos ( incl. 2 burnas) + Boss Snikrot – 215pts
- 5 Lootas - 75pts
- 5 Lootas - 75pts

Troops
- 17 shoota boys (incl. Nob PK/BP) -142 pts
in a BW

- 13 shoota boys (incl. 1with Big shoota and a Nob PK/BP) - 123 pts
on the field screening the Gitz BW.

Heavy Support
- 7 Flashgitz (including 1 PainBoy & all options : more dakka / shootier/blasta/Cybork / + 2 ammo runt) – 340pts
- with Captain Badrukk - 135pts

- 1 BW (Deff rolla/armor plate/grots rigger/1x Bshoota) – 130pts
- 1 BW (Reinforced Ram / 4 x Rokkilauncha) – 155pts


Fast
- 8 Stormboyz + Boss Zagstruck – 181pts
- 1 Deffkopta (TW rokkit) - 45pts
- 1 Deffkopta (TW rokkit) - 45pts

Total 1746pts

I had to left the warboss aside.

The Gitz BW will slowly move 6' turn 1 and 2 then stop and won't move for the rest of the game, surrounded by a small shoota boyz mob. I may make it bigger by giving up 1 squad of lootas ("replaced by the BW that is now a "shooting tank" )

The second BW move with the first then turn 2/turn 3 starts to rush to enemy lines.

Compared to my first list, I am not sure it is quite better. More shooting punch, and the FG are more resiliant , the CC front and rear attack are weakened.
Anyway, thx for the tips]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3710718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/418167/3710718.page GMT