http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net What're the pro's and con's of having the 1 sang guard and the opposite having more.
I also have dante :3]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718417.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718417.page GMT SG with only 1d6 of scatter with dante in the list. Therefore, more SG/DS units, the better his advantage is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718469.page GMT +1 attack on a unit with nothing but power weapons is pretty good.

Toss in a priest, and you dish it out like nobodies business.
20 S5 power weapons, 5 re-rolls, then the attacks from the priest.

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718510.page GMT
One role that your lone squad might be able to fill is that of a precision tank-busting missile. With Dante, the SG don't scatter at all, and unlike your normal Assault squads, there is no limit on the number of meltas they can take. In practice, 3 SG Infernus pistols plus Dante is more than enough to toast any tank you lay your sights on. Furthermore, Dante's precision deep strike helps you mitigate one of the SG's primary weaknesses (no Invulnerable save) by keeping them out of LOS of high-Strength, low-AP weaponry. And if they happen to survive after dropping down and taking out your opponent's most important tank ... well, you just happen to have a tough, mobile set of scoring power weapons floating around in your opponent's backfield. Can't go wrong there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718516.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718542.page GMT
Sang guard are 200 points base. I'm not sure how much their meltas cost but I'm assuming close to 10pts each.

Honour guard are 115 base. +50 for jump packs and then, what 10 pts or 5 per melta?

A little bit less than 200 points for just as much damage output]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718552.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718552.page GMT CC squad of termies and a land raider to go with this set, I just didn't see the point of MORE sang guard but then every post I see on them - if you don't have 500000 sang guard you're doin it wrong.



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Was thinking of getting the sanguinor to go with these guys still haven't figure out if I can deep strike the sanguinor yet. but if I can I can see using the termies with the sanguinor and dante dropping in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718561.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718561.page GMT
IIRC, Sang Guard get melta-pistols for 5 pts.
Sang Guard also have 2-handed, master crafted power weapons, and 2+ armor.
Honorguard get the priest included.

If you just want to deep strike and melta something, go with landspeeder(s) with 2x multimelta. Cheaper (80 pts, 2 multimeltas) than either of the above with far greater range.

Personally, I'm going to gamble that pistols don't suck as much next edition and going all plasma on my Sang Guard.

-Matt

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718695.page GMT What else would you gear on the guard?
The friend I'm getting into the game with is playing imperial guard infantry heavy wtih some tanks and I'm trying to figure a list that gets me in the fastest way possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718756.page GMT
Other than that just whatever weapon you're going to run with them.

IIRC I think if a land speeder deep strikes they can only fire one weapon, since they count as moving 12'' when they do. So one speeder is just 60pts.

Ive just never had much luck with the sang guard, I think they're good but I don't run Dante to make them Troops.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3718766.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719054.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719054.page GMT DC. I'm also looking into the sanguinor and adding in razorbacks and a 3rd ten man assault squad with sang priest.
For now though I'm building my list and trying to figure out the different ways of playing this list and I know that inital list I gave out is well over 2150 points and I'm still not even sure how good the DC is =/ so I'm learning and I may have to get a couple more sang guard if people overall think they're worth it. =D


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was also going to give that DC a homing beacon to let the teleporting be far more effective. They're just so expensive in the way of points =[ - I'm also mostly going to be playing 2150 pt games so I don't know what build is the best I keep reading tons of different lists =/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719089.page GMT BA, which is very nice. I've heard mixed reviews about DC myself, but it l would consider trying out the Vanguard vets at least once instead of the DC and decide for yourself. It seems the only thing you are going to deepstrike is Dante's squad and usually you use him to pop a juicy tank because of his "does not scatter" rules. The problem with this is that once he jumps in with his men and is done with his job he is very vulnerable to return fire, which is the reasoning for vanguard vets. Also remember, he will most likely come in on turn 2 due to descent of angels so the rest of your army may be a turn behind him in their rhinos on the table and therefore unable to provide support. Granted armor saves of 2+ and FNP on Dante's men is nothing to scoff at he can shrug off a lot, just try not to get hit with a battelcannon or worse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719391.page GMT
If you are deepstriking everything (and it sounds like you are) I would recomend outflanking assaultcannon predators so that you can shoot down transports withouth having to chase the to long. (A resreved dreadnought with autocannons also can help here.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719427.page GMT And you said you make the vanguard guys out of what again? I have 20 tac marines I'm not going to use but I was just gonna trade them for something else probably termies or more sanguinary guard XD]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419144/3719472.page GMT