http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3722830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3722830.page GMT VC just came out.

You dont really watch out for armies, but certain units.
Then you have the rest of the not updated armies that are depressing to play with.

You watch out for general and bsb's distance
stead fast
miscasts

everything else is similar enough]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3826184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3826184.page GMT
Get an 8th edition rule book and play some games.


The competitive scene really is a hodge podge of all the armies. The only army books that are poor are Wood Elves and Brettonians. Brettonians arn't bad per say, its just that Infantry are much more powerful. Skirmishers got severly restricted with the rule changes, that and some of the terrain modifications really hurt the woodies.


Vampire Counts just got rereleased so they are up to speed(just don't look at your one page of magic items. yes, 1 page) with 8th as far as working with the new system.

Daemons and Vampires are now about Mid Tier as for competitivness goes, which is where 80% of all army books are now anyways.

Top Tier would be Lizardmen, Dark Elves, and Warriors of Chaos IMO.

And don't let the word Tier fool you. The difference between top and mid tier is a very fine line. The proper ranking has more to do with individual lists and not books as a whole.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3833163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3833163.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3833322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/419414/3833322.page GMT