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				<description><![CDATA[ <u>I am weighing up whether to use a Hive Tyrant or a Parasite of Mortrex at 1000 points for my Tyrannid list.  I want a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> that best supports Gargoyles.</u><br /> <br /> (as an aside, I wish Gargoyles were troops!)<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Hive Tyrant pros:</b><br /> <br /> - Monsterous creature can pop land raiders<br /> - Can take AOE psychic powers and attacks<br /> - Better support for surrounding models, but these must be purchased<br /> - Cannot be killed with Instant Death<br /> <br /> <i>(Wings doesn't allow Hive Tyrant to deep strike as jump infantry??)</i><br /> <br /> <i>(What are the best psychic powers / upgrades to take as a winged tyrant??)</i><br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Parasite or Mortrex pros:</b><br /> <br /> - Can hide amongst Gargoyle Squads (not being picked out as a monsterous creature)<br /> - Can deep strike with Gargoyles (as jump infantry) and hence charge with them<br /> - Can spawn ripper swarms to help overwhelm units charged with Gargoyles<br /> <br /> ====<br /> <br /> My list (1000 points):<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> Hive Tyrant		1<br /> 	Wings	<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 		<br /> Hive Guard		4<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		12<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		12<br /> 	Scything Talons	<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacks	<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacks	<br /> <br /> 
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				<description><![CDATA[ The problem with the tyrant is the cost - he is so expensive with wings!<br /> <br /> At 1k i would take the parasite...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It was <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>'d that all units with wings can deepstrike as per the Jump infantry rule.<br /> <br /> The best psychic powers for my money are Paroxysm and Leech essence. Paroxysm will wreck someone's day.<br /> <br /> At 1000 points, I think the Parasite might be a better pick, but then you'd better include some heavy armor poppers<br /> <br /> Your Genestealers don't really need scything talons. Toxin sacs are amazing on Genestealers, however. <br /> <br /> Consider taking a Tervigon to spawn some scoring termagants to hold your home base, and then send it into the mix of things.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the insight and replies!<br /> <br /> <br /> Notes (from most important to least important): <br /> <br /> <br /> - <b>concerned that I will run into a situation where "oh land raider, you lose" ...</b> because need an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> as a heavy armour popper.    A harpy is 160 points and underwhelming <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>... might as well take more gargoyles, or a winged tyrant...  Maybe a Zoe in a spore pod?<br /> <br /> -  was going to add 24 Termagants as back-field objective holders but... I don't like them =/ I wish I had something tougher / longer ranged.  Even 3 tyranid warriors with venom cannons / deathspitters do not fill that role.  I know Tervigons are ideal but would need 160 points to sink into that...  Maybe I should just aim to table at 1000 points instead...<br /> <br /> - squeezed the talons onto the genestealers to make up 1000 points exactly.  I'd run them naked otherwise.  <br /> <br /> - will put a Tervigon into the second tranch (the next 1000 points to a 2000 point list).<br /> <br /> - Hive Tyrant powers ,two of which are based on the enemy's leadership value... making Paroxym and Leech Essence auto take. Other than taking expensive Brood Lords with the Genestealer squads, there isn't a way to modify leadership... the old "the horror" tyrannid lists are dead...<br /> <br /> - Thank god Winged monsterous creatures can deep strike... <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> now to keep it from being fragged by heavy weapons as there's no target saturation... I wish gargoyles had melta guns   <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> Here is an adjusted parasite list... aiming to table<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> Parasite of Mortrex		1<br /> 		<br /> Hive Guard		4<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drop the parasite and go bare bones Tervigon with catalyst.  Trim one unit of stealers by dropping toxin. To make up points.  <br /> <br /> Way more durable and versatile <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>. Cause the parasite will just get shot down by a missile.  Of course if you don't have a suitable model to proxy the Tervigon... Give it a shot.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>rpricew wrote:</cite>Drop the parasite and go bare bones Tervigon with catalyst.  Trim one unit of stealers by dropping toxin. To make up points.  <br /> <br /> Way more durable and versatile <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>. Cause the parasite will just get shot down by a missile.  Of course if you don't have a suitable model to proxy the Tervigon... Give it a shot.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> I was hoping to avoid buying Tervigons straight up because they are more troublesome to make / convert, rather than buy off the shelf.  In Australia, it works out to roughly $600 AUD per 1000pts<br /> <br /> Here is a list organised in purchase tranches (the tranches could be reversed)...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ... are Tervigons really that mandatory? The Internet would have me think so, from a competitive standpoint....<br /> <br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <b>TRANCH 1</b>	Total	995<br /> Hive Tyrant		1<br /> 	Wings	1<br /> 	Old Adversary	1<br /> 		<br /> Hive Guard		4<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	<br /> 		<br /> Genestealers		10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	<br /> 		<br /> Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	<br /> 		<br /> <b>TRANCH 2</b>	Total	1998<br /> 		<br /> + Genestealers		18<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	18<br /> 	Broodlord	2<br /> 		<br /> + Gargoyles		10<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	10<br /> 	Toxin Sacs	10<br /> 		<br /> Tervigon		<br /> 	Catalyst	<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacks	<br /> <br /> Tervigon		<br /> 	Catalyst	<br /> 	Adrenal Glands	<br /> 	Toxin Sacks	<br /> <br /> 		<br /> Termagant		12<br /> <br /> Termagant		11<br /> 
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