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kenshin620 wrote:Not really, bows arent all that powerful and BS3 doesnt help that. Mind as well spend the points getting extra choppas where orcs really shine

Arrer boy is the same cost as an orc with a 2nd choppa.
Bows work pretty well in horde formation, as do basic orcs.

So, if you were going to run a block of 40 orcs, would you rather have 10 more S4 attacks, or 30 S3 shots?
For a front line unit, orcs with extra choppas are great, but if you're out on the flank, those 30 shots might be nice to have.

Bows aren't great, but 7 points is a pretty good deal for a T4 model with light armor and S4 in the first round of combat.

Combined with Hand of Gork, arrers are awesome. Poof, not only am I now out of your charge arc and on your flank, but here's 20 or so arrow shots to boot.

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3758887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3758887.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz str 5 attacks with big 'uns with 2 CC weapons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3758958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3758958.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
HawaiiMatt wrote:
kenshin620 wrote:Not really, bows arent all that powerful and BS3 doesnt help that. Mind as well spend the points getting extra choppas where orcs really shine

Arrer boy is the same cost as an orc with a 2nd choppa.
Bows work pretty well in horde formation, as do basic orcs.

So, if you were going to run a block of 40 orcs, would you rather have 10 more S4 attacks, or 30 S3 shots?
For a front line unit, orcs with extra choppas are great, but if you're out on the flank, those 30 shots might be nice to have.

Bows aren't great, but 7 points is a pretty good deal for a T4 model with light armor and S4 in the first round of combat.

Combined with Hand of Gork, arrers are awesome. Poof, not only am I now out of your charge arc and on your flank, but here's 20 or so arrow shots to boot.

-Matt

Heh, looks like i'm gonna have a couple of Arrer Boyz soon.

Johnnom wrote: arrer boyz are good in high point games. But overall boyz are better and for 2 more points a model in horde formation you could dish out 39 str 5 attacks with big 'uns with 2 CC weapons

Yeah that's true but I already got a Horde unit of Big'Uns. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760374.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760374.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
With 8th edition stand and shoot with deep blocks of archers is nasty. Frankly I liked arrer boyz back in 7th. No armour, orcs dont get a decent save, hand weapons, same as boyz; and a close combat champion.

They lost the close combat champion but gained the same boosted close combat attack of every other boy. Frankly I like them even more.

I used to see them played them in two ranks on a hill. Now I will be happy to take four ranks and use them as line troops, either rush in with the other boyz, not very efficient but a hardly a big loss, you miss out on one attack per file, plus one for lack of a combat champion.
In return you get the versatility to say, 'I am not going to charge today' and shoot instead. Sometimes the other army is choppier than you.

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Orlanth wrote:
With 8th edition stand and shoot with deep blocks of archers is nasty.


How so? You can not volley fire as a S&S so it is better to have wide blocks of archers.

None the less I have seen arrer boys run as a flank and shoot unit in OnG and while a terror causer cleans them up nicely they are still anoying]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760476.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
Johnny-Crass wrote:
Orlanth wrote:
With 8th edition stand and shoot with deep blocks of archers is nasty.


How so? You can not volley fire as a S&S so it is better to have wide blocks of archers.


Not the point, in the past you couldn't afford to have more than one ranks, two on a hill. Back in the day two ranks, standard and hill was deceptively powerful.
Now you don't need to risk a situational unit, deep ranks has value as a defensive unit, firepower isnt. In combat two more attacks per file at S3 is a fair enough offset of the missing S4 attack from a second choppa. Arrer boyz are S4 melee troops with their choppas, that isnt bad for 7pts, not bad at all. You are not short changed with deep block arrer boyz and gain a lot in versatility.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3760632.page GMT Re:Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz NG netter horde with a couple fanatics and maybe a Mangler or two to fill it out. not trying to hijack the thread, but does this sound plausible?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773033.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773033.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
Your list is certainly more than just plausible, NG netter hordes,Savages, Spear Chukkas and Rock Lobbas are all staples of competitive O&G.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773108.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
Cryonicleech wrote:30 is decent, and if you find them lacking, simply upgrade to 40.

Your list is certainly more than just plausible, NG netter hordes,Savages, Spear Chukkas and Rock Lobbas are all staples of competitive O&G.


This is really encouraging to hear. Thanks for the feedback. Feel free to answer in PM if it's going to drag the thread off topic, but is Azhag worth it this edition in your opinion? Maybe him with an Arachnarok buddy to create some large target diversity?

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18" Inspiring Presense makes a real difference, especially if you have goblins.

If you have the Azhag you could try him or just make your own warboss. Its what I am building right now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3773579.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3775046.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3775046.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
However because the arachnarok has ordinary gobbos as well as the shaman lord, so there is shielding against being picked off by archers, and loremaster doesn't hurt if you like Little Waargh.

I am not convinced by the price myself but it offers enough that when I get my incy mincy I will dry pin my shaman and shrine and use it from time to time.

The flinger, that I will leave clean off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3776560.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3776560.page GMT Re:Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz CC is nice also. Doing this, I would probably have a 20 man unit; enough to take wounds but not too many that not being able to volley file (ie never being able to volley fire) will not cause a large amount of wasted points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3825645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3825645.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz
Orcs hang tough in the battle, goblins need bunkers. I am hearing nasty things about using the spider banner BSB and 100+ goblin archers as a bunker unit]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3826376.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3826376.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz BSB tends to be up front, so is prone to assassination.

On the other hand, it did create a no-go zone for my gyrocopter, and was pretty concerning for other small units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3827229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3827229.page GMT Opinion(s) on Arrer Boyz http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3829751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/421467/3829751.page GMT