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				<description><![CDATA[ I've recently restarted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> and plan to make an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army. However the problem is that I hate the design of Cadian Shock troops and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> is out of my price range.<br /> <br /> I plan on using these bad boys instead  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> (going to use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> bases and paint the helmets of special weapon carriers brightly to distinguish them)<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=1</a><br /> <br /> My question is would this put people off playing with me and will I be able to play in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ CrabSlap]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I havent been in any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores, but i hear you have to have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> product to play there. As for people not playing you, only d bags wouldnt play you just for buying non <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> product. And do you really want to play a d bag anyway. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 18:57:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ObliviousBlueCaboose]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Non-GW IG troops</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Since you didn't rule out other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis, I thought I'd mention the models under the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> section of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40k</span> Collector's range on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s site.<br /> <br /> They have Mordians, Tallarns, Valhallans, and Steel Legion.<br /> <br /> The squads of 10 are a little over 20 pounds each, compared to Forge World's 35+ pounds per squad of 10, so they're a little more than half the price of ForgeWorld stuff. Since they're <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> models, there would be absolutely no issues with playing at a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store or tourney.<br /> <br /> As for your question, I don't know about what's allowed in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store. I only played at one once, and that was years ago.<br /> <br /> But I wouldn't mind playing against ya with models that you find look better. I myself use some miniatures from Reaper Minis in my Battle Conclave, which I mounted on appropriate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> bases.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:06:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Pouncey]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Non-GW IG troops</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>And do you really want to play a d bag anyway. </div></blockquote><br /> Good point  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div> I thought I'd mention the models under the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> section of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(146);'>WH40k</span> Collector's range on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s site.</div></blockquote><br /> I was going more for a poor man's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>DKoK</span> but I hadn't thought of this. Definitely something I'll consider! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:56:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrabSlap]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Non-GW IG troops</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>CrabSlap wrote:</cite>I was going more for a poor man's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>DKoK</span> but I hadn't thought of this. Definitely something I'll consider! </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> In that case, Steel Legion troops would suit your aesthetic tastes and stop anyone questioning their legality in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> environment <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:04:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lord_Vader]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There's a bunch of guys who use pig-iron heads/troops as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> at my local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> all the time and the employees don't care at all, so I say go ahead.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:37:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Snarky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've played at a couple <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> stores and no one had issues with me playing non <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> products. Personally, I think that pig iron look isn't bad at all. Go with what feels right and isn't that harsh on your wallet. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:39:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ King Pariah]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This question comes up pretty often.<br /> <br /> Most wargamers like to see nicely done variant and unofficial armies.<br /> <br /> Basically you will not be able to use non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> models in official <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> tournaments. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> shops will most likely stop you from playing with them.<br /> <br /> Playing in Indie shops, tournaments and with friends, you will get a lot of acceptance as long as you follow a few sensible precautions.<br /> <br /> 1. Make a cool army.<br /> 2. Ensure the weapons, etc. are clearly distinguishable even if you use non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> weapons. Your opponents need to be able to tell a plasma gun from a sniper rifle.<br /> 3. Do a nice paint scheme (see point 1.)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 21:18:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kilkrazy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ cool idea cool figures. <br /> from experience most store managers don't care as long as you buy stuff rom them also like your chimeras and leman russ'<br /> player probably won't care. i saw a space marine dreadnought being used as a necron anihilation barge last week and everyone was fine <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(387);'>wth</span> it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 6 Jan 2012 21:47:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ captain collius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>CrabSlap wrote:</cite>I've recently restarted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> and plan to make an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army. However the problem is that I hate the design of Cadian Shock troops and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> is out of my price range.<br /> <br /> I plan on using these bad boys instead  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> (going to use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> bases and paint the helmets of special weapon carriers brightly to distinguish them)<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=1</a><br /> <br /> My question is would this put people off playing with me and will I be able to play in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Depends solely on the stores, really.  Some don't care as long as *some* of your minis are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis, but some are uber obnoxious.  Go to your local <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store and check it out.  Watch some games a couple different days of the week and you should have your answer.  Some stores require *all* <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis and fully painted.  Some require <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis, but are lax on paint.  Some don't mind a mix.  Generally you should expect to put *some* <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis on the table if you are going to play in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store. Though nothing keeps you from customizing and turning those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis into something else than what they were designed to be.<br /> <br /> The figs themselves are cool.  They have a lot of character. The first of my 3 Imperial themed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> armies (yes I build armies and eventually sell them off to build new armies!)  I built using the plastic troops that came in the old Warzone game boxed set.  The jaegers were awesome looking figs.  Add in some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> vehicles and you are good.  The only real concern I have is one of scale.  I was looking at Wargames Factory plastic colonial british troop minis to use as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> troops at one point, but they figures were *true* 28mm figures and not the heroic 28mm figures that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> makes.  They all looked like kids dressed up for war next to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> figures.  If that doesn't bother you, as long as you are using the right size bases (20mm round for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>) it shouldn't matter what the figs lool like as long as they don't give you some kind of extra advantage by being too small or something.<br /> <br /> In most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stores you should be able to get away with non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis supplemented by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> products too.  For my personal preference, as long as I could identify what I was fighting I don't really care about the mini manufacturer.  Have a friend who plays with half <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> minis and half printed "paper armies" figures to bulk out his army for bigger battles.  They probably wouldn't let him play that way in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store, but I don't care in the least.  Since he is on a limited budget he can try out new things rather cheaply before investing in them and finding out he doesn't like the unit at all and is now out $50 that he can't afford to have to replace with something else instead.<br /> <br /> Skriker]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Skriker]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Non-GW IG troops</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I doubt anyone who wasn't a collector themselves would even know they WEREN'T <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>DKOK</span>, unless the scale is wrong.<br /> They look awesome, I'd love to play against them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:05:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joey]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cheers for the advice and info everybody!! Might go try push my luck with a bit more confidence now  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:20:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrabSlap]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mantic is making new army called Corporation or something, they look REALLY GOOD]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:22:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ LunaHound]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wargames factory make some sci fi greatcoat troopers that i got for christmas.They make a much cheaper substitute for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>dkok</span>.I paid £31 at wayland and got 36 troopers with a load of weapon helmet options.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Jan 2012 15:27:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ shingouki]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Non-GW IG troops</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ These, I think they are the best looking sci fi troop <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span><br /> <br /> <img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uEOQEjuDdH4/TvnU2pTjx1I/AAAAAAAAAxQ/yhpi1KO9DnU/s1600/warpath-humans-corporation-01.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ LunaHound]]></author>
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