http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k after a few years away (don't ask how many, I don't like to admit to being that old.)
I've had a few friendly games of 5th Ed with my girlfriend (CSM vs Dark angels) and had fun, on Thursday I went down to the local games workshop for a game, and got murdered, twice. Once by Tyranids, once by Grey Knights. Having done a bit of research apparently neither DA or CSM are considered competitive with all the shiny new codexes. That said I've always liked Nurgle, and I'm happy as long as I have a good game. I don't insist on winning every time. I do like to put up a bit of a fight though, so I'd like to get some feedback.

Daemon Prince 180
MoN
Wings
Wind of Chaos

7 Plague Marines 266
2 Plasma Guns
Champion with Powerfist
Rhino

7 Plague Marines 256
2 Melta Guns
Champion with Powerfist
Rhino

7 Plague Marines 246
2 Melta Guns
Champion with Powerweapon
Rhino

5 Chaos Terminators 250
Mon
Reaper Ac
2 chainfists

2 Obliterator 150

Defiler 150

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800225.page GMT CSM Win tournaments timr and time again, but it's all about finness and using the right units. Terminators are awesome, but death star units are out of fashion. It is also a bad idea in general to field a unit without a Rino.

Just so you can see what a competitive list is here is one that one a 40 player tournament near me.

Demon Prince
Lash

Demon Prince
Lash

3 or 5 Terminators

10x Maybe more?
Lesser Demons

Plague Marines x6
2x Melta
Rino

Plague Marines x6
2x Melta
Rino

Plague Marines x5
2x Melta
Rino

Noise Marines x5
I think they had a blast master?
Rino

2x Oblits

2x Oblits

2x Oblits

I don't have a codex infront of me, but if memory serves that is a solid highly competitive 2000 point list. Obliterators own so use them. And I don't know how I feel about Land Raiders, but with IG Melta spam, DE Lance Spam, and all the other crazy stuff out there thses days, I don't see them accomplishing much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800380.page GMT FAQs out today, so you might want to consider taking a lord instead of the DP/DPs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800401.page GMT

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Just read the FAQ and that is exactly how he used Lash, that is all just common sence. Rolling to hit isn't horrible at all you still get to move an enemy unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800409.page GMT
I had considered having 4 terminators and a terminator lord, but I really like the DP model! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800487.page GMT DP's with wings.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800491.page GMT
Is there something wrong with vindicators? They look great to me but none of the lists I've looked at seem to include them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800528.page GMT
Oblits live longer, have more shooting options, and don't scatter if you DS them within 6" of your marines. And that is amazing for their cost. I would never field CSM without them, but then again it's all about personal prefference.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800566.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3800731.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3801409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3801409.page GMT
I cant really get another Plague marine squad without dropping either the terminators or the defiler and one of the oblits. Tempting but I don't think its worth it, they would probably be the next choice if I went up to 1750/2000 points. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3804262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/423739/3804262.page GMT