http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net KoS, but at what points level do the greater deamons become viable? Are Daemonettes good for core, and what would be the best way of running them? Any other advice anyone could give?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3829588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3829588.page GMT lol Last tourney I was at fate, masque etc werent allowed. Flamers, crushers, letters, horrors, LoC and Thrister are all still very solid stuff though. Im sure you could run some slaanesh stuff though. They made the book to emphasize using a bit of everything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3829796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3829796.page GMT IMHO). Because there's a lot more stuff that can handle them. Like a bloodthirster with armor can fit into a 1900pt game. There is basically nothing anyone is going to field that can stand up to it, other than specific war machines, lucky spells, or a whooole lot of guys (or another crazy special character, which he'll likely smush). At 4K points, there's just too many roadblocks, diverters, etc. to slow him down and it's an awful lot of points in 1 guy.

I agree with above that Khorne/TZ have by far the best units. Masque, Skulltaker are also really good named heroes. Even Changeling can be annoying for how few points he is. And blue scribes can be a nice mana battery.

But really it boils down to having lotsa bloodletters, one of the best infantry units in the game. A herald of TZ with mastery of sorcery (which will annoy people, but it's just so damn good). Flamers, which are the best elite shooters in the entire game. Bloodcrushers which are the top 2 MC in the game.

The rest is fluff. If you can fit in Fateweaver he can be really good, but he's crazy expensive. The other generic Lords aren't quite as good unless you spend at least an extra 100 or so points. Most people just stock up on Heralds.

Some Slaanesh units can be okay to get flanks or chase war machines. Unfortunately, not many Nurgle units are all that great IMHO. Their main trick is regeneration, which is negated quite often. So they end up being overcosted, understatted daemons.

You can bunker your Herald of TZ in some Horrors and they become pretty hard to hurt. Though they aren't especially good, IMHO. Most of their spells are Magic Missiles and if they get engaged they can't cast. So then they become reduced to a big anvil unit, that's kind of expensive. Though they do get flaming attacks.

OH, Keeer of Secrets is...okay. But she's a 450pt character that's a lvl 1 caster. If you give her a Spirit Swallower (100pts) you can make her impossibly hard to kill. I just think you're kind of losing a bit vs. a Bloodthirster. Okay, she ASF. Big deal, she has I10 to begin with and Blood has 9. AP. Big deal, she has 6 str. Very little would get an armor save to begin with. She doesn't have Fly or MR. And spells are a cheapo way to hurt it. Moreover, she can't get armor other than Daemonic Robes, which are really only cannon protection, and not that great. Bloodthirster's Obsidian Armor or Armor of Khorne are really nice to keep away the plinkers. But like I said, if you get Spirit Swallower and get her stuck in vs. nearly any infantry block, she will never die. (I also just don't like the model as much.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3830135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3830135.page GMT KOS then consider using beasts for your Herald, it's a super combo. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3831363.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3831363.page GMT KoS, added armor too it and used the rules of a BloodThurster?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3836384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3836384.page GMT


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3836479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3836479.page GMT KoS is the better one because of the soul reaper sword (cannot remember the name right now) pretty much makes her unable to be killed. Daemonettes are nice but should only be supplimental core as they need to hit specific targets to do well, where as Bloodletters (with a herald and maybe a BSB) should be your big block core unit. Two units of Flamersx6 is almost a must and using units of fiends (in units of one) are great warmachine hunters or redirectors. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3840531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3840531.page GMT KoS, Masque, a block of Daemonettes with the -2 Ld banner, and some Seekers is far from the most efficient build but it can win games. Add units of Flamers, Flesh Hounds and Horrors and you've got a solid army. The most powerful build is around Bloodletters, Horrors, Flesh Hounds, Fiends, Flamers and a BT or LoC. It's not the friend-losing beast it was in 7th but it's still amongst the better builds in the game.

The DoC doesn't suit a mono-list for any god, there just aren't enough troops available to you to make it viable. An alternative is to run a DoC army and add some WoC and/or Beastmen to give you the option of also running a mono-Chaos Horde using the rules from Tamurkhan. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3877656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/425358/3877656.page GMT