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				<title>Cheaper Honor Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking 30 points per guy, I know only 5pts cheaper but I am not done yet!<br /> Weapons need a price drop too. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> could be 10pts, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(112);'>RB</span> 5pts, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(516);'>AGL</span> 5pts. <br /> New options, like plasma pistol for 5pts, pair of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> 10pts<br /> <br /> I noticed not to long ago that Honor Guards have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>, Bolter, AND bolt pistol! something I thought only grey hunters had. Long story short, I tried making a list with calgar and 3 squads of Honor Guard but its to expensive for what you get, + I felt like there where weapon options could have been great for them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:59:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rex-Nine]]></author>
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				<title>Cheaper Honor Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ A Vanguard Veteran on foot with a power weapon is 40pts.<br /> <br /> A Chapter Honor Guard on foot with a power weapon is 35pts.<br /> <br /> The Honor Guard has better armor, higher Leadership, more Attacks, and a boltgun.<br /> <br /> What's the problem? Honor Guard are already pretty cheap for what they do.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:35:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<title>Cheaper Honor Guard</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Honorguard are pretty terrible given the current meta.  I used them for quite a while, but the sheer amount of Meltas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PWs</span> and I5-6 attacks running around now makes them a hard sale.  <br /> <br /> Everything they can do (other than sweep) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> Termies do better AND cheaper... and have an invulnerable save... AND don't require a Chapter Master to field.  A five-point drop might help, but I think what they need more than anything is an Invulnerable Save or something that would encourage you to take them over Assault Termies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:44:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gornall]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gornall wrote:</cite>Actually, Honor Guard are 40 points a model and are pretty terrible given the current meta.  I used them for quite a while, but the sheer amount of Meltas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PWs</span> and I5-6 attacks running around now makes them a hard sale.  <br /> <br /> Everything they can do (other than sweep) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> Termies do better AND cheaper... and have an invulnerable save... AND don't require a Chapter Master to field.  A five-point drop might help, but I think what they need more than anything is an Invulnerable Save or something that would encourage you to take them over Assault Termies.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Transport space.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:20:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike325]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gornall wrote:</cite>Actually, Honor Guard are 40 points a model</div></blockquote><br /> Maybe you should get a current, and official copy of Codex Space Marines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:42:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DarknessEternal]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>DarknessEternal wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gornall wrote:</cite>Actually, Honor Guard are 40 points a model</div></blockquote><br /> Maybe you should get a current, and official copy of Codex Space Marines.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I fail.  I forgot that I ran my squad with a Relic Blade on the Champion, which is where the 40 points/model came from.  I still stand by the rest of my points, though.  They simply do not have a cost-effective niche in the current meta.  Whether that is best fixed through a price drop or special rules is up for debate.  I think if they were 40 points a model and had WS5 and a free banner, then they might be worth it.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:54:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gornall]]></author>
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