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				<title>Grey Knight DRAIGO-WING... vs. Logan-Wing (1850)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So today i played in a 1850 tourney. My first game was a learning game... because I was completely unprepared to deal with what was thrown ant me. My opponent ran 20 grey knight Paladins, the inquisitor Kalmorov, or what ever his name is, and Draigo.n I ran Grimmnar, wolf guard with cyclones, and THUNDERWOLVES. I also had a Rune Priest with Jaws of the WorldWolf and living lightning.   <br /> 1) Turn 1:<b> I immediately realize that my krak-missiles cant really devastate Paladins</b>. So my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> lands with Logan, some wolf guard, and my priest. I shoot with the rest of my army and kill nothing, but all my money was on using Jaws. So come time to PSHYC some stuff my priest passes his test and kills 3 paladins. Now my opponent wasn't really mean but INCREDIBLY arrogant so he acts like killing 3 paladins is the most devastating hit hes ever taken.<br /> 2) Turns 2-5: The rest of the game basically played out the same as turn one except: Logan and mr.Priest died due to lucky psy-cannon rolls. With 3 turns left my opponent mopped-up what was left.<br /> LESSON LEARNED: I need some dedicated transport and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>: 1 stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:53:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, yes anything <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 1,2 will hurt draigowing.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:00:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yup<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:03:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>tamo71 wrote:</cite>yup<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> or if you have thunder hammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> combo, my deathwing was amazing against draigowing. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:59:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Marthike]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knight DRAIGO-WING... vs. Logan-Wing (1850)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah i do that but then most of my stuff dies before combat and then the Halberds rip me up before <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> gets to go. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:12:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tamo71]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knight DRAIGO-WING... vs. Logan-Wing (1850)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>tamo71 wrote:</cite>Yeah i do that but then most of my stuff dies before combat and then the Halberds rip me up before <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span> gets to go. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What you need to do is sit back and shoot him with your cyclone missiles, it will kill 2-3 before he arrives in range of you. and then you have your 3+ invl against rending and 2+ armour so his shooting is not gonna be any better.<br /> <br /> You can also field twice as many terminators than draigowing. also vendreads with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> will bash some paladins to death or melta them.<br /> deathwing is actully very good compared to draigowing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:37:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Marthike]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And the key with Deathwing in this situation is keep them close together when you're near his Paladins so you can commit multiple squads to the combat. He won't get through enough storm shields to prevent you having enough attacks to really hurt him.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ColdSadHungry]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>ColdSadHungry wrote:</cite>And the key with Deathwing in this situation is keep them close together when you're near his Paladins so you can commit multiple squads to the combat. He won't get through enough storm shields to prevent you having enough attacks to really hurt him.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> and definatly get the charge on him, maybe even throw a sacraficail unit at it since if you don't charge him, and if his units are large then you stand no chance.<br /> <br /> 5v5, you might stand a chance depends on how many <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, I normally have 3 and 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>. If you have 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> then you stand a good chance of beating him.<br /> <br /> 10v5, no chance, you can tarpit him with your 3+ invl but in the end you will lose that combat. but drawing combat is easy since every one you kill is 2 wounds <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Feb 2012 01:53:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Marthike]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, somehow I thought this was Deathwing V Draigowing, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. Anyway, yeah i was talking about a full 5 man squad of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>Th</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies which I think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> Termies can do as well but the cost of them is too high and I think  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> are probably a better bet anyway.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Feb 2012 19:31:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ColdSadHungry]]></author>
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