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I'm really interested in some of the Khador figures I've seen and would like to maybe give the game a go. I'm mainly interested in the Winterguard models, and was wondering if it was possible to build a decent list out of them, without using any warjacks or some of the other models that don't fit the look of the winterguard. I'm not really a fan of the look of the warjack models or some of the heavily armored Khador models like the men o' war or the assault kommandos, so if possible, I'd like to stick with an army of all winterguard.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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massed winterguard can in fact be quite good. i would sggest it with some of our noted "troop" warcasters:

Either Irusk
'Epic Sorscha
Either Vlad

any of the above casters can handle tons of troops well, with special mention to prime irusk and epic sorscha. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3854759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3854759.page GMT
I really like the Epic Sorscha figure, and probably will go with her.

I have another noob question, as I have only picked up the Forces of Khador book so far, and not the main rulebook. I see each caster has four tiers with different requirements and benefits. Does the tier I choose to model my army around have any consequences other than the restrictions and benefits? In organized play, are some tournaments limited to certain tiers?



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Keep in mind that if you play in a Steamroller tournament, you HAVE to spend your warcasters' warjack points.
Even if you just play normal games, not spending your warjack points means you'll always play 5-6 points down compared to your opponents. I'd recommend finding a faction where you actually like the looks of the warjacks instead, since they can do a lot of things nothing else in an army can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3854933.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3854933.page GMT
-they already have the pieces, and want benefits for taking them together, or they break regular FA restrictions (like Orsus')

-they want a challenge (a lot of them are considered sub-par (in effect, not design), Khador's got a few good ones, but also some really difficult ones (like the Old Witch's)

-they want acces to things they couldn't (for instance, Zerkova's alternate theme allows you to take a Vanguard (light merc jack) as a khador piece)

-they're starting new, and want some guidance (this is risky, as some lists reward less than brilliant choices)

In eSorscha's theme, there's a moderately strong argument for getting to Tier 2, as it's quite nice to be able to place your own terrain; it allows you to field those Winterguard you wanted to; and the terrain works well with her two favored jacks (Beast and a Kodiak are nicely efficient).

Downsides include not all the support you'd necessarily want, and not having kayazy assassins, who are khador's premier light infantry.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856168.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856330.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856330.page GMT
Something I forgot to mention-- If you're going for a single warjack (minimum allowed), there are basically 3 options:

1- get the cheapest heavy you feel comfortable with (probably a juggernaut) and save all your points for infantry

2- get the nastiest single piece you can think of (beast 09 or the behemoth spring to mind, spriggan is a pretty good runner-up)

3- get the most efficient piece you can think of (kodiak, berserker (depending on the caster), beast (again... wonder why he's so popular?))]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856568.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3856568.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3857491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3857491.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3857755.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3857755.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3907229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3907229.page GMT
That thing has bashed my legion models to a pulp so many times...

Though to be honest, If you don't like the Jack models for your army, I'd advise against actually getting that army. Jacks and beasts are to important in this game. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3907800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/426688/3907800.page GMT