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				<description><![CDATA[ I have decided to start playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> army, partly because I like the look and feel, partly because my 2 roommates each play Daemons and Beastmen so I need to finish the trifectum of Chaos.<br /> <br /> My 1500 point list is<br /> <br /> Sorcerer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span><br /> Sorcerer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span><br /> <br /> 15 Chaos Warriors w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Shields<br /> 15 Chaos Warriors w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Shields<br /> <br /> 15 Chosen w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, additional hand weapon, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Favour of the Gods<br /> 5 Chaos Knights w/ Musician, Standard Bearer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span><br /> <br /> I'm hoping to get tips on how to run/improve this list. I'm also wondering if the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> on the Sorcerers is a good idea or if I should use them with Lore of Fire or Lore of Death.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ CrashCanuck]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would say drop the chosen at this points level they are pricey and can't be used to their full potential. <br /> <br /> I would takeone lvl2 and an exalted hero <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span>. <br /> Then give both these guys some gear. <br /> <br /> The non is over priced for what it does. So if you Wang an anvil unit try <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>mot</span> with shields and the rapturous standard when the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> is near by, in my experience then that unit will either win combat or they will hold. Quite solid middle of the battle line unit. <br /> <br /> I see you are trying to be punchy. I have found (and others will agree) that halberds and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>mok</span> warriors are really good together. High <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>ws</span> initiative <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> and attacks. These guys usually take care of problem units. <br /> As well they may want the banner of eternal flame that way they can even deal with trolls hydras hellpits etc. <br /> <br /> Personally I am a tz guy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>mot</span> sorcerers on discs I find are fantastic. The lore has 3 or 4 really good spells: flickering fire, infernal gateway, pandaemonium and treason (if the opponent is not itp). <br /> <br /> The knights work with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>mot</span> and also <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>mok</span> for the extra attacks. <br /> <br /> Also if you are new to the army check out the link below. <br />   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:50:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cowpow16]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the help cowpow, I'm on my phone right now and I will post up the modified list after, what kind of deployment would you recommend?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> So the new list is<br /> <br /> Sorcerer lvl2 w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(804);'>DoT</span>, Talisman of Endurance<br /> Exalted Hero w/ Battle Standard<br /> <br /> 15 Warriors of Chaos w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, Shields, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> 15 Warriors of Chaos w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, Shields, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Rapturous Standard<br /> 15 Warriors of Chaos w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, Halberds, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Banner of Eternal Flame<br /> <br /> 5 Chaos Knights w/ Musician, Standard Bearer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 02:34:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrashCanuck]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thoughts are maybe get rid of the nurgle unit for more warriors in the other units as well as possibly getting some hounds and if points allow it some gear for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span>.<br /> <br /> I usually put my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> in the rap standard unit and have those guys at the center of my battle line.<br /> <br /> Hounds help a lot since you have a small army unit wise and reacting to your opponents deployment makes the battle a lot easier for you.<br /> <br /> I run one of my casters with the golden eye. Its cheaper and if you use him right he should never be in combat anyways s might be worth looking into.<br /> <br /> Looks good tho, as said earlier the nurgle warriors seems a little out of place.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 04:33:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cowpow16]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So you would see the list be<br /> <br /> Sorcerer<br /> - Mark of Tzeentch<br /> - Disc of Tzeentch<br /> - Talisman of Edurance<br /> <br /> Exalted Hero<br /> - Battle Standard<br /> <br /> Warriors of Chaos (20)<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> - Mark of Tzeentch<br /> - Shields<br /> - Rapturous Banner<br /> <br /> Warriors of Chaos (20)<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> - Mark of Khorne<br /> - Halberds<br /> - Banner of Eternal Flame<br /> <br /> Warhounds (5)<br /> <br /> Chaos Knights (5)<br /> - Musician<br /> - Standard Bearer<br /> - Mark of Tzeentch<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Then add more items to the Sorcerer and Exalted Hero with the remaining points?<br /> <br /> <br /> I imagine that deploying this force will look something similar to<br /> <br /> |Knights|           |<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>|             |<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>|<br />                            |Sorcerer|<br /> <br /> then use the Warhounds to move along the flank they are needed most on?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:40:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CrashCanuck]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That seems pretty solid try it out and then make changes according to you play style. <br /> I would recomend another unit of hounds so you can throw down two units before having to deploy your warriors. <br /> <br /> But ya looks good. I would also<br /> suggest running them 6 wide rather than 5. Reason being if they fight something with smaller bases (20mm) then they can get more attacks.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:28:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cowpow16]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Where is the horde of marauders with great weapons? By far the scariest thing in the book <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:19:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Jubear wrote:</cite>Where is the horde of marauders with great weapons? By far the scariest thing in the book <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 21:56:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Those guys are great and oh so cheap.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2012 22:50:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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