<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had meq's, bugs, heretics, or space tomb kings! You, as a community should have access to more than 2 troop choices. Its boring. We need more options to keep play fluid and creative. Now I play Space Wolves and Grey Hunters are the best troops in the Imperium. Enough said. Yes, we have Blood Claws but.... uhhhh. So my dream troops are the Grey Slayers from the Eye of Terror codex. With 2 attacks base and Relentless (True Grit) they would be an amazing addition to the Great Companies. Make them 17 or 18 points (drop Claws to 14 maybe? hmmm), and we have a very nice scoring unit that can do some work. . What do you guys think of the Slayers and what troops would you wanna see in your armies?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3876862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3876862.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had SW ? Nah.

You want meat ? play a swarm army ! guardsmen, orks tyranids you name it.
Each race has its specialty, and space marines are not a hordearmy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3890988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3890988.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3892838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3892838.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
The Imperial Guard, for all your warfare needs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3892884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3892884.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
Maze wrote: So my dream troops are the Grey Slayers from the Eye of Terror codex. With 2 attacks base and Relentless (True Grit) they would be an amazing addition to the Great Companies. Make them 17 or 18 points (drop Claws to 14 maybe? hmmm),

I also would like Eldar Guardians that each carried Star Cannons for 2 points total per guy.

It's just as reasonable as your suggestion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3893740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3893740.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
Or even if Troop Deff Dredds were able to hold objectives.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895729.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895729.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895800.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had Id be happy with squigs for the orks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895826.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895829.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3895829.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
Human Auxilaries for Tau

And Wracks for DE

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For Tau, either,

XV15 battlefield training suits for shas ui teams getting ready to become shas vre elites

or

Drones as troops.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3900828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3900828.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3905085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3905085.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3905493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3905493.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had BC, plus they have a boltgun, making them that much more effective. you'd have to drop point costs for blood claws at least 3-4 for me to want to use them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3947128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3947128.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3976421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3976421.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
As for the Nids, they don't need any more Troops, it's a strange day when I don't max out my Troops and Elites selections. If anything, some of our Troops choices could do with slight discounts (Hormagaunt and Genestealer upgrades) or better rules (Ripper Swarms).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3976500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3976500.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
derjager7 wrote:Blood Claws are, in my opinion, not worth the same as Grey Hunters. Yes, they have furious charge, but to me, i only use them when i want to troll with Lukas. Grey Hunters simply having better stats should be worth more than BC, plus they have a boltgun, making them that much more effective. you'd have to drop point costs for blood claws at least 3-4 for me to want to use them.


Or, you know, increase the cost of the most undercosted troop in the game?

As a Black Templar, I'd love to have more than one troop choice...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3977000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3977000.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
Also not just split into assault or shooty, but simply more variations of purpose or strengths.

jumping hormagaunts that can assault over terrain with no penalties or gain an advantage but are crazy fragile.

Space marines that fire at assaulting units first.

Orks that could stampead and if they killed a unit they could assault another in the same turn.

That kind of stuff, it could be simple upgrades or bonuses you can take for a unit that. Such as the marine option if the entire squad has only bolters they may shoot once if being assaulted. Bring more tactics into a game i think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980553.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had ccw.

I don't even want the jump pack ones from rogue trader or EPIC.

It's sad when a bunch of psykers can out fight a unit of vets...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980572.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980717.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had CC meatshields!

However, think of the Yarrick, and all the other buffs. How would you like to face 80 S4 attacks + 10 PW ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980724.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980724.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had FW with jetpacks. So they stay out of cc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980858.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
Throw Wraithguard into troops regularly, instead of that "only as a 10 man squad" rule.

Phoenix Lords should definitely make at least one squad of their Aspect scoring.

And I disagree about Marines having more troop types. Yeah, it sucks gamewise to have such limited options, but in the fluff that's exactly how it is. In case you couldn't tell, I'm a big fan of fluff influencing gameplay.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980983.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3980983.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
A man can dream...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3981049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3981049.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had CSM need their hordes again. Bring back the cultist mobs.

Admittedly the number of troops choices are high but they are all in power armor(other than the generic lesser demons). CSM is really the major general chaos codex and yet it mainly reflects just the space marine part of Caos. I know it's in the name, but the GK codex is really the Inquisition codex, the codex names are just names.

Oh, and any of the demon squads should still be legit troop choice within a CSM army instead of non specific greater and lesser demons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3981359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3981359.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had CSM troops, then bring back the good lesser daemons, add in cultists and Operatives for the AL, and give something in the Chaos army a sniper rifle!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982140.page GMT Re:Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had Or just skittarri. That could work as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982314.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had
MandalorynOranj wrote:

Phoenix Lords should definitely make at least one squad of their Aspect scoring.


Yes, this. Or maybe make them troops, which would achieve the same result. It makes sense fluff-wise too. If Fuegan was leading an army, or at least attached to one, you can bet the Craftworld's Fire Dragon shrines would go all out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982670.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3982670.page GMT Meat for the Meat Grinder! Troops we wish we had http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3985613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427877/3985613.page GMT