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				<description><![CDATA[ I will be playing my first <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> next week.<br /> <br /> This is my present 2500 pt list:<br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord on Manticore (general)<br /> Mark of TZ<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 4<br /> Talisman of Preservation<br /> Infernal Puppet<br /> Enchanted Shield<br /> Warrior Bane<br /> Stream of Corruption<br /> 1+/3++<br /> <br /> Exalted Lord (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>)<br /> Mark of Khorne<br /> Juggernaut of Khorne<br /> <i>War Banner</i> (+1 combat res)<br /> <br /> Scyla Anfinngrimm<br /> <br /> Festus the Leechlord<br /> <br /> (x50) Chaos Marauders<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>  (Festus will join)<br /> -/5++<br /> <br /> (x25) Chaos Warriors<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Shield (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> will join)<br /> <i>Banner of Rage</i> (Frenzy)<br /> 3+/6++ v. close combat only<br /> <br /> (x15) Chosen<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span><br /> <i>Blasted Standard</i> (5++ v. shooting)<br /> Champion bears Favour of the Gods<br /> 4+/4++ v. shooting/6++<br /> <br /> Hellcannon<br /> <br /> <br /> My first opponent will be against 2500 pt Dwarf list.<br /> <br /> What can I expect to face? Any tactics I should bear in mind?<br /> <br /> Am I correct that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> will provide +2 combat resolution because the War Banner provides +1 and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> itself is +1?<br /> <br /> Lord Thanatos]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Lord_Thanatos]]></author>
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				<title>New to WHFB - WoC 2500 pts - help/thoughts/fixes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Lord_Thanatos wrote:</cite>Am I correct that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> will provide +2 combat resolution because the War Banner provides +1 and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> itself is +1?</div></blockquote>The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(173);'>CR</span> will stack like that ... but I don't think you should be taking the warbanner on your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> anyway.  Pick up some magic gear instead, something like a dawnstone to give him a rerolled 1+ armor save and a charmed shield to wear on his back and keep him safe versus the first artillery snipe (i.e. it doesn't improve his save, but does still give him the 2+ 'save').  On your manticore level 4, are you using the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> price for the enchanted shield?  So 15 not 5 points?  Also, you may as well grab a 5 point biting blade from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> book while you are at it, more useful than the warrior bane <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I have a few other tweaks, you'll see them in the list:<br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, level 4, stream; biting blade, e.shield, puppet, talisman of preservation, manticore = 610<br /> <br /> Exalted Hero - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, c.shield, dawnstone, halberd, juggernaut = 234<br /> Festus = 185<br /> <br /> 25 Warriors - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, banner of rage, full command, shields = 495<br /> 50 Marauders - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, full command, great weapons = 300<br /> <br /> 15 Chosen - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, blasted standard, favor, full command, halberds = 400<br /> <br /> Hellcannon = 205<br /> Scyla = 105<br /> --------<br /> 2534<br /> <br /> So that's: biting blade on level 4, defensive gear on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, and halberds instead of great weapons (keep your awesome Initiative!) on the chosen.  Thing is, it's 34 points over ...  While I could start cutting into the list to find points (stream, the 50th marauder, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> on the warriors, etc) a simple solution would be to drop Scyla, then use the extra points to pick up 1-2x 5 warhounds and/or another chosen or something.  Scyla is a lot better than other spawn, but he's still a lot of points for a level of randomness <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  (I personally might drop the warrior's mark of nurgle and 1 marauder to make points - Scyla is sort of not good but I like sort of not good things <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">)<br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:03:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Boss Salvage]]></author>
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