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i've just started dwarfs a month ago and i want to know what you think about this list!



dwarf lord
master rune of steel ( attacks above strenght 5 will be S5)
rune of resisntance ( re-roll AS)
rune of stone (+1 AS)
shield bearers
GW

runelord
master rune of balance (steal 1 power dice and add to dispel dice)
2* rune of spellbreaking (scroll)
GW

thane
BSB
master rune of spite (4+ward)
rune of stone ( +1AS)

28* longbeards
shields
FC
master rune of gnungni (5+ ward against shooting)

10 thunderers
shields

10 quarrelers
shields

20 dwarf warriors
FC
GW
shields

28* hammerers
FC
3* rune of sanctuary ( total of Magic Resistance 3)

organ gun

grudge trower
engeneer
brace of pistol
rune of accuracy (re-roll scatterdice)
2* rune of penetration ( total+2S = S5/10 )

cannon
engeneer
brace of pistols
rune of burning (flaming)

cannon
engeneer
brace of pistols


2499 points
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Lose the magic resistance on the hammerers, waste of points. Increase the unit size for the warriors, 20 isn't enough.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3909831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3909831.page GMT Re:new dwarf player @2500
1.Drop the second cannon and try to fit a grudge thrower in their.
2.Drop the Thunderers and Quarallers and make a 16 man unit of Rangers (without throwing axes, they have crossbows so whats the point, sure the TA's are str 5 but you can only use them once... I think....)

Other then that, good list my friend
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3916635.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3916635.page GMT new dwarf player @2500
imperial commander wrote:hi guys,

i've just started dwarfs a month ago and i want to know what you think about this list!



dwarf lord
master rune of steel ( attacks above strenght 5 will be S5)
rune of resisntance ( re-roll AS)
rune of stone (+1 AS)
shield bearers
GW

runelord
master rune of balance (steal 1 power dice and add to dispel dice)
2* rune of spellbreaking (scroll)
GW

thane
BSB
master rune of spite (4+ward)
rune of stone ( +1AS)

28* longbeards
shields
FC
master rune of gnungni (5+ ward against shooting)

10 thunderers
shields

10 quarrelers
shields

20 dwarf warriors
FC
GW
shields

28* hammerers
FC
3* rune of sanctuary ( total of Magic Resistance 3)

organ gun

grudge trower
engeneer
brace of pistol
rune of accuracy (re-roll scatterdice)
2* rune of penetration ( total+2S = S5/10 )

cannon
engeneer
brace of pistols
rune of burning (flaming)

cannon
engeneer
brace of pistols


2499 points


In my opinion it's not bad, but there are a few things I would do differently...

First off, I like the 2 cannons, but rather than stick engineers on both of them I think you're better off finding the points for The Rune of Forging. Second, it isn't worth the points to stick both Great Weapons and Shields on your units. If you bought GW's you have to use them so the shields become useless. Third, I'm not a big fan of your 10-man unit of Quarrellers. Small units of Thunderers can work ok, but small units of Quarrellers don't and here's why: In turn 1 shooting phase, your Quarrellers will need 5's to hit. So, with a 10-man unit you're only going to get maybe 3 hits on anything and probably needing 6's to hurt a warmachine. If you're going to use Quarrellers in your list, take a big unit (20 or so) and give them great weapons. This way, when they get charged they'll still be able to deal some damage in hth.

Also, I don't think the Rune of Sanctuary is really worth the points in 8th edition. Yeah, you get that extra MR for spells that target that unit, but if you already have a Runelord with 2 Runes of Spellbreaking and the Master Rune of Balance I don't think you really need it.

I also think that your Longbeards and Warriors sizes should be swapped. Instead of spending 361 points on 28 Longbeards with shields, I'd bring 38 Warriors with Great Weapons and run them in Horde formation to attack 3 ranks deep. I'd probably drop the Thunderers and opt for more Quarrellers with great weapons. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3918893.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3918893.page GMT Re:new dwarf player @2500 http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3948466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3948466.page GMT Re:new dwarf player @2500
green_oni wrote:You should put some runes of reloading on your warmachines, I can't tell you how many times that rune has helped me.


I'm going to reply just to counter this vote. Generally, the Rune of Reloading is considered to be a beginner's mistake, and never worth taking on warmachines. For Cannons, the Rune of Forging is vastly better, and should be considered mandatory. For Grudge Throwers, an Engineer has a similar effect (in that it allows you to reroll results on the misfire chart, instead of ignoring "can't shoot next turn" effects), but also gives BS4 and an extra wound. Grudge Throwers also need the "rune space" for their 1x Accuracy and 2x Penetration. If you run two GTs, the second should have Accuracy, Penetration, Burning, which still leaves no room for Reloading.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3951187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3951187.page GMT new dwarf player @2500

runelord
-MRO balance (steel power dice and add to dispel dice)
-scroll
-shield
-RO stone (+1 as)
-RO preservation (imune to killing blow and poisend attacks)
-RO furnance (2+ ward against flaming)
-RO resistance (re-roll AS)

thane
-bsb
-MRO gromgril (1+ as)
-RO resistance (re-roll AS)
-RO preservation (imune to killing blow and poisend attacks)
-RO furnance (2+ ward againsr flaming)

40 warriors
-great weapons
-shields
-full command

40 longbeards
-great weapons
-shields
-full command
-MRO grungni (5+ ward against everything in the shootingfase)

23 hammerers
-full command

cannon
-RO forging (re-roll misfire)
-RO burning (flaming)
-engeneer

cannon
-RO forging

grudge trower
-RO accuracy (re-roll scatterdice)
- 2* RO penetration (+2 strenght = S 5/10)
-engeneer
-brace of pistols

organ gun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3965399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3965399.page GMT Re:new dwarf player @2500 GW or Shields, not run both. (I'd do Warriors with GW and Longbeards with Shields, but that's personal preference)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3980367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3980367.page GMT new dwarf player @2500
I'd personnaly increase my hammers en lower the amount of longbeards and drop the shields on the longbeards]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3982055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3982055.page GMT new dwarf player @2500
Powerful list, though I, too might consider stripping shields from the core blocks and using the extra to bulk the hammerers up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3982071.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3982071.page GMT new dwarf player @2500

well, i made a new list:


runelord
-MRO balance (steel power dice and add to dispel dice)
-scroll
-shield
-RO stone (+1 as)
-RO preservation (imune to killing blow and poisend attacks)
-RO furnance (2+ ward against flaming)
-RO resistance (re-roll AS)

thane
-bsb
-MRO gromgril (1+ as)
-RO resistance (re-roll AS)
-RO preservation (imune to killing blow and poisend attacks)
-RO furnance (2+ ward againsr flaming)

40 warriors
-great weapons
-full command

40 warriors
-great weapons
-full command

39 hammerers
-full command
-MRO grungni (5+ ward against everything in the shootingfase)

cannon
-RO forging (re-roll misfire)
-RO burning (flaming)
-engeneer

cannon
-RO forging

grudge trower
-RO accuracy (re-roll scatterdice)
- 2* RO penetration (+2 strenght = S 5/10)
-engeneer
-brace of pistols

organ gun]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3983523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3983523.page GMT Re:new dwarf player @2500 http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3984391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/428392/3984391.page GMT