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				<description><![CDATA[ hi all i recently decided to maybe start a fantasy army next to my (megaawesome) marines and knights<br /> I was browsing trough the armies and there are two amies i like, empire and ogres. empire because i have a soft spot for the 'good' guys.. also in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span><br /> but the ones i liked the most are ogres, why? they don't need a lot of models to make quite a lot of points and the minis are freakin' awesome really epic and bloody and everything you want and its good because i prefer spending a week to paint one mini to a relative high standard then painting 10 minis a week with a low quality.. i love to put detail on my minis (check gallery if you like, but remember i'm no pro at all <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">)<br /> <br /> so is it a good idea to start ogres? i don't want to loose all the time (bit of a sore loser <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">) and i have limited funds (so no hordes)<br /> are they a bit competitive and payable?<br /> <br /> go or no go?<br /> <br /> <br /> thx.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:20:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joske De Veteraan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ogres are a very strong army right now <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.  With their new book they have a few very competitive builds]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:38:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ dont need a lot of models!? I currently have about 60 fat guys and over 200 gnoblars and i'm looking to get more &gt;.&gt;]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:44:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ogres are very good right now.  They have a lot of flavor.  And they make people get in their bellies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:48:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>chaos0xomega wrote:</cite>dont need a lot of models!? I currently have about 60 fat guys and over 200 gnoblars and i'm looking to get more &gt;.&gt;</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> yeah but how many points do you have? i don't think i'm goign over 2000pts  ever.. unless i really love them <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:25:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joske De Veteraan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ More than I care to count &gt;.&gt; though I doubt you'll stay at 2000 points for long, fantasy is really meant for 2500-3000 pt games (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>), 2500 pts certainly seems to be the most common games size around here.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 18:52:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 2500 is the best size for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> and ogres can get there fairly easy with mournfang and ironblasters]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:00:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ oo yeah i'm thinking in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> points.. in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> a 2000pts army is pretty decent.. i'm aiming at the common size so probably 3000 i don't see a lot in gnoblars actually  more in iron guts, a butcher, some reg ogres a stonethooth and nice big chunk of mournfang <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> i love 'em already..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:27:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joske De Veteraan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ogres are a tough customer. Depending on your build you just have to watch how you position stuff so they dont lead a real expensive unit away from the fight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:33:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Draigo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Ogre kingdoms are worth it?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ogre Kingdoms are a great army if not a bit tricky. They have some builds that will just eat up enemy armies like delicious cake. However positioning is very important with this army ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:29:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joske <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>De</span> Veteraan wrote:</cite>oo yeah i'm thinking in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> points.. in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> a 2000pts army is pretty decent.. i'm aiming at the common size so probably 3000 i don't see a lot in gnoblars actually  more in iron guts, a butcher, some reg ogres a stonethooth and nice big chunk of mournfang <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> i love 'em already..</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Gnoblars are good because you can take 50 of them for 125 points <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. Send them in as a tarpit to allow your other units to flank around, etc. Most times you will want more ogres though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:49:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ chaos0xomega]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The models alone are worth it <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span>. Two battalions plus some extras give a lot to work with for cheap in comparitive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> levels. Build an army standard bearer from the box, get the nice and cheap Scibor Slaughtermaster, two boxes of Mournfangs and an Ironblaster for a start for example. This would give you, depending how you build it and equip your Slaugthermaster and armystandard bearer, 2500 pts. already.<br /> <br /> Playwise I wasn´t able to to do a match so far but they seem to do fine enough.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:53:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Saphos]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Trondheim wrote:</cite>Ogre Kingdoms are a great army if not a bit tricky. They have some builds that will just eat up enemy armies like delicious cake. However positioning is very important with this army </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This, basically. In the right circumstances, the Big Fat Fatties can make everything in their way look like, well, small easily-broken toy soldiers.<br /> However, in the wrong circumstances they can collapse, as they're not great in terms of numbers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:58:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gorskar.da.Lost]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think most will agree they certainly are a very "playable" army for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span>.  I also think it's important to mention, since you mentioned cash, that the ogres are one of, if not THE cheapest army to get rolling in fantasy.  Their battalion is a steal in what you get for the value.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:03:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ILUSPB]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you want an idea of how many models you may need for a good solid Ogre list here is one i'm taking to a 2500 point tournament in March(Bay Area Open)<br /> <br /> Lords <br /> Lvl4 Slaughter Master(Lore of the Great Maw(Crown of Command, Armor of Destiny, Ironfist)373 pts <font color='red'>You can get this by either converting a regular Ogre into a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> or you can get the actual character model</font><br /> <br /> Heroes <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> (HA, Standard of Discipline) 149 pts<br /> Lvl2 Butcher(Lore of Beasts(Hellheart) 185 pts <br /> Lvl1 Butcher(Lore of Heavens(Dispel Scroll) 125 pts<br /> <br /> <font color='red'>Basically the same as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>. Either kitbash from a regular ogre or buy the character models(Note: there is no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> model so you will have to scratch build your own)</font><br /> <br /> Core <br /> 9 Bulls (Ironfists, Full Command) 318 pts <font color='red'>a Battalion plus 2 boxes of bulls will get you this many Ogres</font><br /> 9 Bulls (Ironfists, Full Command) 318 pts <br /> 6 Ironguts (full command, Banner of Eternal Flame) 298 pts a<font color='red'> battalion will get you these guys</font><br /> <br /> Special<br /> Sabretusk 21 pts <font color='red'>1 pack of Sabres will get you 2 of them</font><br /> Sabretusk 21 pts<br /> 4 Mournfangs (IFs, HA, Banner bearer, Bellower, Dragonhide Banner) 350 pts <font color='red'>2 boxes of Mournfangs here</font><br /> <br /> Rare <br /> Ironblaster 170 pts <font color='red'>2 Ironblaster/Scraplauncher boxes</font><br /> Ironblaster 170 pts<br /> <br /> 2498 pts<br /> <br /> <br /> Theoretically, if you scratch built all your characters, you could make the above list with a Battalion Box, 2 boxes of Ogres, 1 pack of Sabretusks, 2 boxes of Mournfangs, and 2 Ironblasters. You get the Characters by making the Leadbeltcher bodies into your characters instead of Leadbeltchers. There are plenty of extra bits to do this in all of the above boxes.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:22:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They are very good at the moment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:59:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Up 3 supporting attacks is pretty huge. You can get a significant number of above average strength attacks, from a single unit. With a horde this gets even better.  ]]></description>
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