<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Savage Orcs with Bows..."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Savage Orcs with Bows... Has anyone tried this? Maybe + Spider Banner?
Could be nasty?

MAybe I should add that, unless I have misread, that bows are in addition to hand weapons, not instead of them..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905184.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905184.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows... BSB won't have to stand off to the sdide of the unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905239.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905277.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows... BS so you loose some range but get about 3 times more shots for the same pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905292.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3905292.page GMT Re:Savage Orcs with Bows... str 3 bow fire from a horde of savage orcs is your only ranged shooting you are going to have problems. Sure this build could work as it allows you to have savage orcs in a shooty orc army but I think that straight up orc archers and groups of goblins can do it just as good.

Also the problem begins to be that you have a lot of points tied up in one unit which can only do one thing at a time, but you need to just play with this build to see how it fits in your army and playstyle, but I doubt that it will be a successful strategy to build your army around.
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Orcs on the other have a bit more range, making it possible to get 2 bursts of volley fire off, and they hold up much better on a flank.
If you run numbers of the difference between 5-10 more attacks, and 20-30 S3 shots, you'll find that both have their place. Sometimes the shooting is better, sometimes the attacks are better.
Both are Viable.

-Matt




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Oh, I'm pretty sure that the poison banner gives all GOBLINS in the unit poison attacks. That's a no go for Orcs with bows.

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3906825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3906825.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows... str 3 bow shots, even poison is much more of a gimmick than actually threatening. The problem is the unit does not create enough of a threat by itself to invite the enemy to fight you in melee. The unit will not move forward as it will be shooting or the bows are a waste of points. And then while it is shooting there are not enough shots to make it a threat and actually earn you points in an actual game. The unit will earn its points in melee and your opponents will know that. Even if you only move them the max 4" and still shoot the unit will be moving slow enough to be avoidable. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3908777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3908777.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3911988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3911988.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows...
HawaiiMatt wrote:
Oh, I'm pretty sure that the poison banner gives all GOBLINS in the unit poison attacks. That's a no go for Orcs with bows.

-Matt


Nope, the wording is "models in a unit with the spider banner, including the standard bearer, get poison attacks"

So yes you can do it. I'm not entirely sold on the idea that bows are better than dual choppa, though. I'll try a huge horde of bow-wielding savages with a gobbo BSB and Spider banner, just for the surprise factor.



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jouso wrote:
HawaiiMatt wrote:
Oh, I'm pretty sure that the poison banner gives all GOBLINS in the unit poison attacks. That's a no go for Orcs with bows.

-Matt


Nope, the wording is "models in a unit with the spider banner, including the standard bearer, get poison attacks"

So yes you can do it. I'm not entirely sold on the idea that bows are better than dual choppa, though. I'll try a huge horde of bow-wielding savages with a gobbo BSB and Spider banner, just for the surprise factor.





actually you want the BSB on the side of the unit to keep him out of combat so being on a different base is to your advantage, or the little git wearing light armour and shield at best is going to die.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3918395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429431/3918395.page GMT Savage Orcs with Bows...
Orlanth wrote:actually you want the BSB on the side of the unit to keep him out of combat so being on a different base is to your advantage, or the little git wearing light armour and shield at best is going to die.


If you run a wide frontage, then yes, I haven't been hording my orcs for quite some time now though. 5 for shield+choppa orcs, 6 or 7 for the heavy hitters.

As I told before, I'll try that this weekend:

40-ish unit of savage archers with a gobbo+spider banner.

Then a smaller (30-ish) unit of savage big'uns with the shrunken head shaman. That pretty much fills core.

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