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I've been discussing with a friend about the meaning of "vanilla" CSM having a close combat weapon in their standard profile, while loyalist marines don't. It's the only difference between them, but I've red that poses a big advantage over the loyalists. I'm not sure what does that mean, since normal CC weapons don't give any special ability unless they're used in pairs, which grants you an extra attack... could it be that having both a pistol and a CC weapon counts as 2 CC weapons, therefor having an extra attack not described on the profile? Please help!

Thanks in advance!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908810.page GMT CSM have an extra attack in CC due to having 2 close combat weapons.
It means you can use the bolters for regular shooting attacks, but when you get into charge range you could use your bolt pistols in the shooting phase to thin out the enemy unit, and then charge, getting +2 attacks (1 for the assault and 1 for the extra CC weapon)...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908821.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908821.page GMT ccw + boltpistol give you one aditonal attack. It is far less useful than it appears cause the lack of atsknf and combat tactics makes close combat extremely risky.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429633/3908939.page GMT