<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Magogg - ratling special character"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Magogg - ratling special character
Points cost: 70pts

Ws 2
Bs 5
S 3
T 3
W 2
I 4
A 2
Ld 8
Sv 5+

Wargear: Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Heat Scope, Sniper Rifle

Heat Scope: re-roll to wounds

Special Rules: Independent Character, Ratling, Expert Marksman, Preferred enemy: Tau Empire, Stealth, Infiltrate, Move through cover, Night Vision.

Ratling: Magogg may only join Ratling Sniper Squads.

Expert Marksman: Rending hits are conferred on a roll of 5-6, in addition the roll for armour penetration is 2d6 + 3]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910271.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character (no really, I like it.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910707.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character
sluggaslugga wrote:...Preferred enemy: Tau Empire...


Oh come on! Like they need more ways of being killed! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910731.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character
Avatar 720 wrote:
sluggaslugga wrote:...Preferred enemy: Tau Empire...


Oh come on! Like they need more ways of being killed!


They do though...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3910743.page GMT Re:Magogg - ratling special character ID down to 5-6 rending and double wounds how bout? I dont want my 6W trygon to die in one hit]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3911183.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3911183.page GMT Re:Magogg - ratling special character
Config2 wrote:Lets knock the ID down to 5-6 rending and double wounds how bout? I dont want my 6W trygon to die in one hit

But Magogg is a pretty weak character with only a 5+ armour save
if you take him out before he can pose a threat to your Trygons, you should have no problem
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sluggaslugga wrote:
Config2 wrote:Lets knock the ID down to 5-6 rending and double wounds how bout? I dont want my 6W trygon to die in one hit

But Magogg is a pretty weak character with only a 5+ armour save
if you take him out before he can pose a threat to your Trygons, you should have no problem

He's also got stealth and a ton of other Ratlings with him. That's about 9 wounds and a lot of cover saves before you can kill him.

I'd say a 5-6 rend sounds good. And maybe 3+2d6 armor pen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3912470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3912470.page GMT Re:Magogg - ratling special character
Chowderhead wrote:
sluggaslugga wrote:
Config2 wrote:Lets knock the ID down to 5-6 rending and double wounds how bout? I dont want my 6W trygon to die in one hit

But Magogg is a pretty weak character with only a 5+ armour save
if you take him out before he can pose a threat to your Trygons, you should have no problem

He's also got stealth and a ton of other Ratlings with him. That's about 9 wounds and a lot of cover saves before you can kill him.

I'd say a 5-6 rend sounds good. And maybe 3+2d6 armor pen.


seconded ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3912545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3912545.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3916051.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3916051.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923226.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923298.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character IC, and make him a Ratling upgrade character?

You need to clear up whether his 2d6+3 AP roll is affected by rending.

He's a bit expensive for a character that deals .463 rending hits a turn. I'd drop him down to thirty points and hve him replace one of the Ratlings in the squad. Maybe boost the cost up to fifty and give him some squad bonus like Stubborn or scoring.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3923888.page GMT Magogg - ratling special character IG already have one lone wolf hero in the elites section of the codex, so having another would be a bit redundant.
If you set him at +55 points (so 65 including the cost of the Ratling you upgrade), and changed his special rules so he would give move through cover to the rest of the squad, he would be a decent purchase if you wanted to get more of an elite feel from your Ratlings.

OP, do you mean that he always roll 2D6 to penetrate, or does he also get the rending bonus of +1D3 when rolling a 5 or 6 to hit? The latter would make him almost too good, as he is already able to pen AV14.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3937421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/429710/3937421.page GMT